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Birds and Bees may be gay: museum exhibit

Geir Soeli, the project leader of the exhibition entitled "Against Nature," told Reuters: "Homosexuality has been observed for more than 1,500 animal species, and is well documented for 500 of them."

Also, on a different note, Supernatural should totally have a Jossverse alum in the third episode of every season. One more year, it'll be a pattern!

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Date: 2006-10-13 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] librarianstales.livejournal.com
One radical Christian said organizers of the exhibition -- partly funded by the Norwegian government -- should "burn in hell," Soeli said. Laws describing homosexuality as a "crime against nature" are still on the statutes in some countries.

1. Apparently homosexuality isn't a crime against nature since this exhibit proves it is common.

2. "Burn in hell" doesn't exactly sound very Christian to me.

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Date: 2006-10-13 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arclevel.livejournal.com
I have a sneaking suspicion they said that the organizers *will* burn in hell, not that they *should*. Or that they meant that, allowing for translation/second language problems. Or not, and and we can all cheerfully roll our eyes at them.

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
1. Apparently homosexuality isn't a crime against nature since this exhibit proves it is common.

Indeed. It's a crime in some cultures. It actually does make sense that the taboo against homosexuality would develop in a less-populated world -- you want to encourage population growth. But that's got nothing to do with morality -- it's all about practicality. Beating your enemies by numbers.

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Date: 2006-10-13 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trepkos.livejournal.com
This annoys me - not your post, but the whole ridiculous argument about natural/unnatural passions.
Since when did Christians care what was natural anyway?
Do other animals pray?
Since when does society only do what's natural?
Is it natural to eat cooked food?
They should ask, not, "is it natural?" but "is it doing any harm?"
Yes, it's great that other animals are gay too - but even if they weren't, that wouldn't make it a bad thing for us to be.

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
They only argue 'unnatural' when they have little less to argue with. Unfortunately, it still works as an argument for some people.

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Date: 2006-10-16 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trepkos.livejournal.com
*shakes head at the foolishness of people*

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Date: 2006-10-13 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiletta42.livejournal.com
I, for one, wish the "radical Christians" would shut the heck up. Christianity is about love and forgiveness. A true Christian strives to be like Christ. It's not Christlike to wish for or threaten hellfire.

Jesus never condemned homosexuals. Jesus came for all of humankind, and died on a cross for the sins of all humankind. Anyone who turns people away from God through such judgmental behavior is committing a great sin.

As for the 'against nature' thing -- homosexuality has purposes in nature. If I wasn't incredibly lazy, I'd go look something up right now, but sadly I'm lazy, and I'm sure the museum exhibit does a good enough job of showing it without my two cents.

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
*sigh*

Yes, exactly. God is about love, not about hate. It baffles me that people can read the Christian bible all the way through and think that the point of it is to hate other people.

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Date: 2006-10-13 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com
on a different note, Supernatural should totally have a Jossverse alum in the third episode of every season. One more year, it'll be a pattern!

I forget, who was the Jossverse alum from their first season episode three? But wasn't Amber in fine form last night, and that episode was certainly more enjoyable and more nuanced than the usual run of Supernatural eps.

I only wish I'd caught the first 20 minutes of it (got home late from the office and didn't have enough tape left in the VCR). Did I miss much of Amber, or by catching the final 40 minutes did I pretty much get the gist of it?

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Date: 2006-10-13 09:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
Amy Acker was in Dead in the Water. She did a really good job, too. She called Dean on a lame pick-up line and was very sweet.

But wasn't Amber in fine form last night, and that episode was certainly more enjoyable and more nuanced than the usual run of Supernatural eps.

Amber was marvelous. And I think that Supernatural has been, from the beginning, on an upward curve. The episodes are just consistently getting better, I think.

I only wish I'd caught the first 20 minutes of it (got home late from the office and didn't have enough tape left in the VCR). Did I miss much of Amber, or by catching the final 40 minutes did I pretty much get the gist of it?

If you saw her intro to Sam, you saw her intro. The very beginning was more set-up with the hunter plot (the teaser was a woman getting chased and beheaded by faux-Gunn -- I can't remember his name, but faux-Gunn works well enough, considering his backstory).

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Date: 2006-10-13 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com
Of course! How could I have forgotten Amy Acker!

You're right, the "Supernatural" learning curve has been going in a very encouraging direction (as witnessed by the fact that I continue to watch it, even without the promise of Jossverse alums to sweeten the deal). And yes, I kept expecting "faux-Gunn" (Gordon, was it?) to mention his sister "Alonna" -- except he was more like those ex-comrades of Gunn's who terrorized Caritas in AtS season 3.

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:51 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
Indeed -- he was Gunn without previous knowledge of the horrors of vampires. Gunn was able to put killing his sister into the context of his previous life. Gorden didn't have any previous experience to draw on and just... broke. Too much for him.

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Date: 2006-10-13 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arclevel.livejournal.com
I have a friend who used to work in a lab that studied homosexuality in male sheep. For the studies, they would screen the sheep by setting up a mate choice situation, then offering the sheep a choice of a male or female mate. Roughly 10% of the sheep consistently chose another male.

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Date: 2006-10-16 09:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
I'm not surprised that some did. Knowing the percent is very cool, though. I know that the numbers vary by species.

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