Doctor Who: regarding a Drums one-liner

[butterfly]

So, the question has been asked -- how does the Doctor know what it feels like 'when you fancy someone and they don't even know you exist'? When did he experience that emotion?

Well, from The Doctor Dances we have this:
Rose: "Okay, so he's vanished into thin air. Why is it always the great looking ones who do that?"
Doctor: "I'm making an effort not to be insulted."
Rose: "I mean... men."
Doctor: "Okay, thanks, that really helps!"

He was probably feeling just like he was wearing a perception filter at that moment in time -- there he was, pining his heart out, and he didn't even register as a 'man' to her. Then he dances with her and pulls out all the stops... and she still goes off with Mickey in Boomtown.

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[goldy-dollar.livejournal.com]

Awww! It's so true, isn't it? *pets Nine*

I love more and more now that we basically had this entire season where the Doctor was going: "Me! Notice me! Me! Me! Me!" For all that people are always falling for the Doctor, it's so lovely that one little 19-year-old shop girl put him on the other side of it for once.

And also... I love that so much of that S1 insecurity was gone by S2. In retrospect, so much of S2 just feels like one big honeymoon.

*misses Rose so much*

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Awww! It's so true, isn't it? *pets Nine*

It really, really is. Oh, poor adorable Nine.

I love more and more now that we basically had this entire season where the Doctor was going: "Me! Notice me! Me! Me! Me!" For all that people are always falling for the Doctor, it's so lovely that one little 19-year-old shop girl put him on the other side of it for once.

Exactly -- he gets to experience just what he's made people feel, time and time again.

And also... I love that so much of that S1 insecurity was gone by S2. In retrospect, so much of S2 just feels like one big honeymoon.

It really does. They were both so happy and together

*misses Rose, too*

[lily-268.livejournal.com]

I'd never even made that connection, that's brilliant. S2 was such an "EVERYONE LOVES TEN" roller coaster that you almost forget that Nine had his moments where he felt alone.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

He really did. He had those moments where he was the one going, "Oi! Aren't I cool? Pay attention to me!"

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Oh, I was *totally* thinking of S1 when he said that! The "I mean...men" line you said, or the "Rose, he's a bit pretty" with Adam. :D

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

is that where the saying "I'm pretty!" when one forgets to close one's html tags etc. comes from?

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Say what now?

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

I've seen people say "I'm being a little pretty!" to mean "that was a dumb thing I just did" in various places around the Fandom Internet. I wondered if the origin of that use of the word was in that episode.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Ohhhh. No idea. :)

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Yep. I think he had a lot of insecurity in his relationship with Rose, in S1. He thought she was so confusing and wonderful, and he didn't really know what to do with it.

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

You know, I mean it in the nicest possible way when I say that I feel like your livejournal fulfills my Crazed Rose Fangirl needs. (Perhaps it helps if I say that the Crazed Rose Fangirl is me, not you?)

Poor neglected Nine, all "I'm not a damn eunuch, thanks." Oh, Rose. She really wasted a lot of time there.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Heh. I will take it as a compliment, then.

Poor neglected Nine, all "I'm not a damn eunuch, thanks." Oh, Rose. She really wasted a lot of time there.

Yes! Poor Nine. It took him twelve episodes for the girl to realize that there were some romantically reciprocal emotions going on (as I peg Rose falling in love at the end of Bad Wolf, personally). Normally, people fall in love with him within forty minutes!

[04nbod.livejournal.com]

it reminded me of those exact lines too. Its nice to find fandom kindred spirits :D

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

It really is.

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

Ooooh, yes. This didn't even occur to me. But I have been convinced by mrv3000 and others that he fell for her before she fell for him. Or at least, he realized what was going on sooner. :-) Poor Nine. *pets*

Of course, just because he knows what it feels like for himself doesn't mean he recognizes when it's happening for other people. Heh.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Poor, poor Nine.

Of course, just because he knows what it feels like for himself doesn't mean he recognizes when it's happening for other people. Heh.

True! Of course, that's where the perception thing comes in -- he knows that Martha is there, with her... feelings, but he doesn't want to know.

[blackcat-1.livejournal.com]

Well done! Another excellent parallel you've spotted! Hope it really was that well thought out.
For the record, I'm in complete agreement. He fell for her long before she fell for him. Or, at the very least, she took far longer to acknowledge her feelings for him, than he did for her. S1 was so full of romantic tension between them, wasn't it?

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Thanks!

I think she was attracted to him and liked him and loved him before her 'realization' moment in Bad Wolf, but that's where she put all the pieces together.

They had a lot of Unresolved Romantic Tension in S1 (S2, of course, was mostly Resolved Romantic Tension).