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butterflySo, tonight, I'm finally going to tackle my comments and then... my flist. It's been a while, so it's kinda scary.
But before that, I've had yet more thoughts on Lord of the Rings, which I'm more and more thinking of as one long-ass movie. All cut-tags will contain spoilers for Return of the King (and as a general note: I don't consider it necessesary to cut-tag something from a book that's been out forever - however, I do think that it's polite to help those who want to see the film vision pure, and therefore, I cut out of respect and caring.)
Rewatching Return once again brought home to me what a very spiritual story Lord is. There are three virtues that stand out most to me in the film - hope, mercy, and humility.
Oddly enough, that brings to mind the fact that there are four hobbits. And of those four, three can easily slip into defining a virtue - Frodo as mercy, Pippin as hope, and Sam as humility - and I think that if we should receive the full tale of Merry in the EE of Return that another virtue will present itself. For as a whole, these things point to spiritual love - agape.
Mercy, hope, and humility are what ultimately win the day - Frodo's mercy to Smeagol enables Gollum to later attack him for the ring; Pippin brings news of the enemy's plans, lights the beacon, saves Faramir, and thus is the reason that Minas Tirith regained hope; and Sam held to his love for Frodo and to his part in the tale, knowing that he wasn't meant to carry Frodo's burden. I remember reading once on my flist that Sam is servile, which I disagree with above all things. Sam is a servant, in the way that most with great wisdom and great love tend to be.
In Return, I counted five times that Sam said 'Frodo' instead of 'Mr. Frodo'. But it's possible that I may have missed a couple, as the scenes just suck me in.
Anyway, time the first - holding Frodo in the aftermath of Shelob's attack, Sam first says, 'Mr. Frodo', then 'Frodo', then 'Mr. Frodo' again.
Time the second - "This is for Frodo" in the tower of Cirth Ungol.
Time the third and fourth - Sam twice says 'Frodo' when the Eye has them in its gaze.
Time the fifth - just after Sam gets through the doorway into the mountain - he calls for 'Frodo'.
Does anyone remember if Frodo cries during Towers? I can't think of an occasion.
In Return, he cries twice - once inside Mt. Doom, just before he gives into the ring, and last outside, when he's accepted their death 'at the end of all things'.
Also, it's interesting how Return echoes Fellowship - Sam pulls Frodo out of the reach of the fire, as Frodo pulled him out of the water. And then, there's the difference in what Frodo says.
In Fellowship, he says, "I'm glad you're with me" while in Return, it's shifted to "I'm glad to be with you".
But before that, I've had yet more thoughts on Lord of the Rings, which I'm more and more thinking of as one long-ass movie. All cut-tags will contain spoilers for Return of the King (and as a general note: I don't consider it necessesary to cut-tag something from a book that's been out forever - however, I do think that it's polite to help those who want to see the film vision pure, and therefore, I cut out of respect and caring.)
Rewatching Return once again brought home to me what a very spiritual story Lord is. There are three virtues that stand out most to me in the film - hope, mercy, and humility.
Oddly enough, that brings to mind the fact that there are four hobbits. And of those four, three can easily slip into defining a virtue - Frodo as mercy, Pippin as hope, and Sam as humility - and I think that if we should receive the full tale of Merry in the EE of Return that another virtue will present itself. For as a whole, these things point to spiritual love - agape.
Mercy, hope, and humility are what ultimately win the day - Frodo's mercy to Smeagol enables Gollum to later attack him for the ring; Pippin brings news of the enemy's plans, lights the beacon, saves Faramir, and thus is the reason that Minas Tirith regained hope; and Sam held to his love for Frodo and to his part in the tale, knowing that he wasn't meant to carry Frodo's burden. I remember reading once on my flist that Sam is servile, which I disagree with above all things. Sam is a servant, in the way that most with great wisdom and great love tend to be.
In Return, I counted five times that Sam said 'Frodo' instead of 'Mr. Frodo'. But it's possible that I may have missed a couple, as the scenes just suck me in.
Anyway, time the first - holding Frodo in the aftermath of Shelob's attack, Sam first says, 'Mr. Frodo', then 'Frodo', then 'Mr. Frodo' again.
Time the second - "This is for Frodo" in the tower of Cirth Ungol.
Time the third and fourth - Sam twice says 'Frodo' when the Eye has them in its gaze.
Time the fifth - just after Sam gets through the doorway into the mountain - he calls for 'Frodo'.
Does anyone remember if Frodo cries during Towers? I can't think of an occasion.
In Return, he cries twice - once inside Mt. Doom, just before he gives into the ring, and last outside, when he's accepted their death 'at the end of all things'.
Also, it's interesting how Return echoes Fellowship - Sam pulls Frodo out of the reach of the fire, as Frodo pulled him out of the water. And then, there's the difference in what Frodo says.
In Fellowship, he says, "I'm glad you're with me" while in Return, it's shifted to "I'm glad to be with you".
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Date: 2003-12-28 06:18 pm (UTC)Sam and Frodo at the Cracks of Doom also very closely echo the view we get of Elrond and Isildur at the beginning of Fellowship. Either Isildur's actor is echoing Frodo's expression, or vice versa, too - it's very familiar.
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Date: 2003-12-28 08:59 pm (UTC)