Personal Update (and New Icon!):

[butterfly]

So, I am settling into my new digs and my new job (it's the same company, sure, but wow, this place is run differently...) and I feel that I am adjusting. The roommate and younglings don't need terrible much adjusting to, as I'd gotten used to them over time, in weekends and such. Though jic is much more social than I am, I must say. I'm the sort who is perfectly comfortable doing all her communicating via the internet, because I do suffer from acute shyness (I'm told that I'm quite good at hiding it, which isn't really a good thing).

I have been, as some of you may have noticed, viciously attacked by the vidding bug. It's taken hold of me and is slowly injecting its poison into me. I'm doomed now.

I've also been bitten by Star Wars. It's the friendship that draws me in the most, which is generally the case. Passionate friendships are my favorite thing in all of fiction. People who understand each other on this deep level and yet who can disagree about some fundamental things, yet never stop caring. When I watched RotS and ANH back to back, the first thing that I was struck by was how these two guys are still attached to each other, after all these years. Obi-Wan has been watching over Luke, keeping Anakin's lightsaber close to give to Anakin's son. Anakin is thrown by sensing Obi-Wan's presence again. Another thing that I love to see are friendships that make each person better. And I do think that it was Anakin who made Obi-Wan into the Jedi that he became, the wiser and older man that we first saw in ANH. Just being around that maelstrom of emotion changed Obi-Wan (just as it did Padme -- Anakin, as a passionate fellow, is very good at getting people to react to him). And I really do think that Obi-Wan was Anakin's thread to holding onto the beliefs of the Jedi -- it's no coincidence that Palpatine spills the beans when Obi-Wan is out of range. And I think that I need to see the movie again. Possibly on Wednesday.

But though I'm distracted by the shiny new toy, I'm still seriously looking forward to SG-1, BSG, and Atlantis in July. And my SG-1 Mirror AU is slowly moving forward (sloooooooowly, like continental drift slow, but moving).

jic --
I have a clip that has Ewan introducing himself, so when you get back from vacation, you'll get to hear him pronounce his name.

*sigh*

In his accent. Which is pretty. So pretty. And there's practice fighting between Ewan and Hayden and it's, again, so very pretty.

Oh, and the cats are still alive.

Comments

[iconis.livejournal.com]

It's good to hear you're settling in so well in you new home and work environment. :)

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Aw, thanks.

[selenak.livejournal.com]

And I do think that it was Anakin who made Obi-Wan into the Jedi that he became, the wiser and older man that we first saw in ANH. Just being around that maelstrom of emotion changed Obi-Wan (just as it did Padme -- Anakin, as a passionate fellow, is very good at getting people to react to him).

Yes. If Obi-Wan had never met Anakin, he might have become more like Mace Windu. Or grown more rigid. He wouldn't have survived the downfall of the Republic and the Jedi because he wouldn't have had anyone left to care about, being devoted to the Order as a whole but not to individual persons; there would have been no Luke for him.

And I really do think that Obi-Wan was Anakin's thread to holding onto the beliefs of the Jedi -- it's no coincidence that Palpatine spills the beans when Obi-Wan is out of range.

No, and I think Palpatine decided, when Anakin refused to leave Obi-Wan back on the ship, that he had to get rid of him. That's why he put Anakin on the Council and demanded that the Council appoint him to pursue Griveous, because he knew very well they'd react by doing the opposite, keeping Anakin on Coruscant and sending Obi-Wan away, which is just what he wanted.

If Obi-Wan had been there when Anakin returned with the "Palpatine is a Sith" news, things might have been very different...

[lakester.livejournal.com]

demanded that the Council appoint him to pursue Griveous, because he knew very well they'd react by doing the opposite, keeping Anakin on Coruscant and sending Obi-Wan away

I'm still puzzled as to why the Council took that decision. I can see that they wouldn't want to directly obey the Chancellor's instructions but sending Anakin with Obi-Wan, essentially under his command, would solve the problem. It would give the appearance of compliance with the Chancellor. They don't trust Anakin so sending him away would lessen Palpatine's influence, both on him and the Council. And Anakin would be unlikely to protest working with Obi-Wan as it's the way they usually operate.

[selenak.livejournal.com]

Oh absolutely. I liked the additional scene in the novelization where Obi-Wan assures Anakin that the team isn't broken up, that once this assignment is over, they'll work together again... and of course we know they never will.

As for why the council didn't just sent Anakin wiht Obi-Wan, I suppose they showed Bush White House Syndrome - you know, according to a lot of papers and Bob Woodward, they had the Anything But Clinton mantra there, i.e. whatever Clinton did, they did the opposite. So because Palpatine was the one to suggest it, the Council reacts in kneejerk fashion, as Palps knew they would.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

If Obi-Wan had never met Anakin, he might have become more like Mace Windu. Or grown more rigid. He wouldn't have survived the downfall of the Republic and the Jedi because he wouldn't have had anyone left to care about, being devoted to the Order as a whole but not to individual persons; there would have been no Luke for him.

And that personal element was much more important than the Old Republic Jedi realised, I think. People very often use one person as a representation for their ideals. Hope is a vague notion, but Luke was a real child, a manifestation of hope.

No, and I think Palpatine decided, when Anakin refused to leave Obi-Wan back on the ship, that he had to get rid of him. That's why he put Anakin on the Council and demanded that the Council appoint him to pursue Griveous, because he knew very well they'd react by doing the opposite, keeping Anakin on Coruscant and sending Obi-Wan away, which is just what he wanted.

He really was good at pulling strings to get into power. Definitely the true villain of the story.

If Obi-Wan had been there when Anakin returned with the "Palpatine is a Sith" news, things might have been very different...

For of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

[thalia-seawood.livejournal.com]

it's no coincidence that Palpatine spills the beans when Obi-Wan is out of range.

Yes, Anakin is more stable when Obi-Wan is present.
It's quite noteworthy that Obi-Wan is not there when Anakin's mother dies and he kills the Tuskens and that Obi-Wan is unconscious when Anakin kills Dooku.

I really liked the ROTS novelization for the details it added to the Anakin - Obi-Wan relationship, e.g. there more teasing between them while they set out to rescue Palpatine. And when Anakin learns Palpatine is the Sith Lord he wants to talk to Obi-Wan. (I'd have liked to see that in the movie, too.)

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Yes, Anakin is more stable when Obi-Wan is present.
It's quite noteworthy that Obi-Wan is not there when Anakin's mother dies and he kills the Tuskens and that Obi-Wan is unconscious when Anakin kills Dooku.

True -- all of Anakin's darkest moments happen when he doesn't have Obi-Wan there. Obi-Wan really is a very stabilizing force for Anakin. And he falls into his forbidden and dangerous relationship with Padme when Obi-Wan isn't with him, too.

[lakester.livejournal.com]

keeping Anakin's lightsaber close

I wonder what happened to Obi-Wan's sabre - if it was destroyed in the Death Star, or kept as a trophy by Vader.

it's no coincidence that Palpatine spills the beans when Obi-Wan is out of range.

Or that the first execution of Order 66 we see is the attempted elimination of Obi-Wan.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I wonder what happened to Obi-Wan's sabre - if it was destroyed in the Death Star, or kept as a trophy by Vader.

According to an EU book, apparently he kept it (and Luke and Co. recover it at some point). But that's EU, so it's really still up in the air. I can believe that he would keep it and I can also believe that he might find it too hard to have it (seriously, I just watched ESB and Anakin brings up Obi-Wan a lot more than the situation seems to require -- he even mentions him when he's talking to the Emperor).

Or that the first execution of Order 66 we see is the attempted elimination of Obi-Wan.

So true.

[lakester.livejournal.com]

Anakin brings up Obi-Wan a lot more than the situation seems to require

Hm. :Checks things: In ESB Obi-Wan's name comes up 7 times. 2 from Yoda to Luke, 5 times by Vader, once to the Emperor 'He's just a boy. Obi-Wan can no longer help him.' and 4 times to Luke. 'Your destiny lies with me, Skywalker. Obi-Wan knew this to be true.' and 'Obi-Wan has taught you well.' - Yep, 'cause Obi-Wan's been busy in the past 3 years of being dead. 'Don't let yourself be destroyed as Obi-Wan did.' and 'Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.'

In RotJ Obi-Wan is mentioned 4 times. Once by Luke in conversation with him and the other 3 times by Vader. 'Obi-Wan once thought as you do.' - That there was good in Anakin - right up until the delimbination. 'Obi-Wan has taught you well.' - Again. And 'Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me.', regarding Leia.

Yep, Vader does seem a little preoccupied with Obi-Wan, even at this late stage.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Honestly, it's his random mention of Obi-Wan to the Emperor that stood out the most to me.

Yep, Vader does seem a little preoccupied with Obi-Wan, even at this late stage.

He definitely is, a bit, yeah.

[kunzite1.livejournal.com]

always good to know that the kitties are still alive. ;)

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Live kitties are definitely of the good.