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[butterfly]

So, two important things have happened since I last posted. The serious important thing is the death of Rosa Parks. In the grand tradition of my obliviousness, I really did think that she was dead already. Because I did a report on her in school and everyone else I ever did a report on had been dead for ages.

So, hearing that she died and hearing that she'd only been ninety-two, it really puts into relief the fact that this whole civil rights thing is taking... well, a pretty long time. I can read facts and numbers and know that we had Jim Crow laws into the 1960's, but reading that Rosa Parks died in 2005 at the age of 92 really reminds me that segregation wasn't all that long ago. Reminds me that my dad has more than a few racial biases himself, which is a rather unpleasant discovery I made a few years ago.

I always admired Rosa Parks, I remember that much. She was very, very brave.

The other thing, not quite so serious or important, is that the Stargates have been renewed. Honestly, I'm not surprised. Though, in the wake of seeing Serenity, I ache. Because SG-1 can be a good show, but... it ain't Joss Whedon. SG-1 is the show that I picked up in the wake of Angel's cancellation. It has comforted me. But... man. Ten years for SG-1. Not quite one year for Firefly. Doesn't balance.

I still miss having a Joss Whedon show on the air. Nobody makes me think like that man. I... miss it. I loved Serenity, I do, but I really miss having a Joss show. Two hours can't compare to a season's worth of television, especially not Joss Whedon television, which remain the most emotionally-packed, strongly metaphorical, and the downright best written/acted/directed shows that I've seen. Hands down.

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[frelling-tralk.livejournal.com]

Though, in the wake of seeing Serenity, I ache. Because SG-1 can be a good show, but... it ain't Joss Whedon.


Hee, I remember when Farscape was canceled and a lot of peoples response was that how could Stargate still be airing when it's such an unextradinary show in comparision

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Ah, Farscape, my anti-fandom. Though I do agree that Farscape is a deeper, more artist show than SG-1 is, I would definitely rather actually watch SG-1.

SG-1 is really a very accessible show. Which is a large part of why it's been renewed for a tenth season, I would imagine.

[frelling-tralk.livejournal.com]

Stargate seems to be a show that just screams blandness and okayish for a lot of us. When it was renewed a whle back, I remember Richard Dean Andrerson being asked his opinion on why Farscape didn't get such high ratings. And he suggested Stargate was more earth bound and accessible which yeah. Not for creativity or imagination, for making the audience gasp, but for being a big comfy blanket is my cynical interpretation.


It's doesn't have as much actual Sci Fi as shows actually set in Space, they still touch base with Earth. Maybe that's the difference.

[ishtar79.livejournal.com]

I miss having a Joss show too, even though I was pretty disapointed with BtVS and Ats towards the end. Still, even a mediocre Jossverse season is still miles better than most television, and I feel I'll never be able to find a show I'll get as excited over as the early seasons of Buffy.

Ah, well. At least I still have my boxsets.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I adore my shiny row of Jossverse dvd boxsets, I must say. It's a great comfort to have them available at any time.

[modillian.livejournal.com]

Because SG-1 can be a good show, but... it ain't Joss Whedon. SG-1 is the show that I picked up in the wake of Angel's cancellation. It has comforted me. But... man.

YES. I watch other shows (CSI?) but nothing has hit me with a two-by-four over the head like Hush or anything like it. I miss the Joss-induced head trauma.

I still miss having a Joss Whedon show on the air. Nobody makes me think like that man. I... miss it. I loved Serenity, I do, but I really miss having a Joss show. Two hours can't compare to a season's worth of television, especially not Joss Whedon television, which remain the most emotionally-packed, strongly metaphorical, and the downright best written/acted/directed shows that I've seen. Hands down.

one order of wordy mcword, and a side of hell yeah.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I miss the Joss-induced head trauma.

*nods*

Nobody can break my heart quite like he can, or make me smile so brightly. He just tapped straight into the core of what I really care about.

[jic]

Word.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

And there are BtVS episodes that you've still not seen, I believe. We need to fix that.

[ravurian]

I, er, can't really imagine what they're going to do with another season of SG1. They already feel slightly impoverished in the imagination department. The thing with SG1 that bothers me, I think, is that - ultimately - nothing sticks and there really aren't any consequences. Oh sure, things happen, but death isn't pemanent, there's nothing the team can't overcome, and the bad guys aren't really that threatening anymore, are they? I think one of the reasons I like SGA is that it hasn't yet settled into that invincibility. The characters are still fallible, and their security is still tenuous. I do rather wish that they'd had another season of peril out on the rim of things before getting back in touch with Earth, but I really enjoy the sense that even if the SGA teams do triumph ultimately each week, mostly it's by accident...

Still, it's good news about the renewels!

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

The Stargates are enjoyable shows. Though I think I preferred SGA when they had no access to Earth, in S1. The danger kinda went away with the permanent connection.

[ravurian]

The Stargates are enjoyable shows

Oh yes! I guess I sounded pretty down on everything yesterday, lol, though I didn't mean to. I've been a fan for years, but I just despair of them taking the sort of risks that Joss took. I'd really like to see them break out of the comfort zone and have something huge. Have them lose Earth, for instance, and become the resistance. Something that would take the show into utterly different realms. I want them to have some tangible sense of consequence, I guess, and personal consequence to the team. Daniel's desperate search for Shau'ri, and then for Shi'fu, was part of what made the early seasons resonate - there was a personal investment rather than solely commitment to a cause. I want to see the consequences of his Ascension, damnit! LOL. I want him to have changed, to have grown, to show some sort of development or powers - something other than the same static Daniel of the last few years - and to have it have some permanence beyond shoring-up the plot of the week.

And, er, oh dear. I've ranted again. I do love the show. Really! I just... expect more from it than it's giving.

[simonesa.livejournal.com]

I feel the same way. We were just watching War Stories and Trash. The crew had such an energy. So different from the movie. It's a gorram shame.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

The cast really did spark with each other. I could have watched years of that. Nine people who all worked well off each other. It's amazing and I hate that Joss didn't get a chance to explore it properly.

[monanotlisa.livejournal.com]

The other thing, not quite so serious or important, is that the Stargates have been renewed. Honestly, I'm not surprised. Though, in the wake of seeing Serenity, I ache. Because SG-1 can be a good show, but... it ain't Joss Whedon. SG-1 is the show that I picked up in the wake of Angel's cancellation. It has comforted me. But... man. Ten years for SG-1. Not quite one year for Firefly. Doesn't balance.

YES. Exactly. I mean -- I like SGA, but it's not even close to the kind of show Firefly was, let alone AtS, let alone my love BtVS. It's just a cute sci-fi show with buddy-movie touches...which is it, I think; the mainstream audience prefers this normal, even, understandable fantasy world to the Jossverse, which is more subversive, more rewarding, more intelligent...but also less easy to understand or follow, with a higher initial energy requirement.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

It's just a cute sci-fi show with buddy-movie touches...which is it, I think; the mainstream audience prefers this normal, even, understandable fantasy world to the Jossverse, which is more subversive, more rewarding, more intelligent...but also less easy to understand or follow, with a higher initial energy requirement.

That would, I think, be the long and short of it. And SG-1, especially, throws away beautiful character moments like they're worthless (they could have done so much more with the setup that they had in Moebius). It's an easier show. Which is something that I have appreciated, because I couldn't have stood another show with the depth of the Jossverse, not in the wake of my grief over the end of Angel. But wow, I really miss having my heart broken and my mind opened.

[siinik.livejournal.com]

I still miss having a Joss Whedon show on the air.

Oh my god, yes. Any Joss show. I'm so looking forward to the Spike TV movie thing. (Is that just a rumour? Is Joss involved? I don't know these things!) I mean, buffy!verse! Yay!

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I think that it's still a rumour.

Joss is doing the Wonder Woman thing, I think. Which I'm harboring hope for. Serenity definitely proved to me that he could write and direct a big-screen movie.