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butterflyIf anyone else has questions they'd like me to answer, the meme is still open.
1. Can I think of anyone that I would want less as the new showrunner than Moffat?
Probably, if I thought hard enough. None of them were people that seem like they would be anywhere near being asked, though (mostly, I'm thinking of Americans). In some ways, the question is irrelevent, because Moffat crosses my threshold of acceptable viewing. Anyone worse than him, I still wouldn't watch, but that wouldn't be a change.
I suppose that I'd really hate it if, somehow, Kripke (Supernatural) was put in charge of the show, but that's so mind-boggling unlikely that it really isn't even worth considering. It is horrifying, though, now that I'm thinking about it.
2. What do I think of Rose-haters?
People who hate Rose have reasons for it, but if those reasons made sense to me, I'd hate her, too. So, really, it's a bit of both. Mostly, I find a lot of the criticism of Rose to be baffling in the sense that I don't see the canonical base for the arguments -- saying that she's less mature in S2, for example, which is so outside what I see when I watch the show that there really can't be any productive discussions arising from talking about it (or, for that matter, people who feel that Rose is a different character in S2). People who ignore her canon traits of kindness and cleverness confuse me.
Rose does have faults -- her immaturity is something that she outgrows, but she's still inclined to small flare-ups of jealousy in S4 -- nothing that I hate her for, obviously, but if someone has a strong feeling about jealousy or about the way things happened with Mickey and Rose, I can see why they might have hate.
She has such a strong character arc that I can't personally not imagine loving her, but some people hate Daniel Jackson, too. Character love and hate is so personal and subjective.
3. What ships squick me? What pairings do I avoid?
Improper military relationships squick me. This is why I could never ship Sam/Jack, even if I thought they had consistent chemistry (I don't. I feel that they occasionally have chemistry, but it's very erratic). She calls him 'sir' on a daily basis. I can't ship with that.
Roslin/Adama falls under this category, because the two heads of state (civilian and military) in bed together hits all of my 'bad government' buttons hard.
I also don't tend to read enemy slash (with the singular exception of Harry/Draco), even if the pair in question is very slashy (like the Master and the Doctor). It just doesn't get me in the right places.
4. What my favorite OTP?
I think, when it all shakes out, it really is Doctor/Rose. And that's because they take my favorite 'shipping notions about friendship and it's canonical. They got a 'happily ever after'. This is so rare for me, you don't even know (my first big OTP was Buffy/Xander). And I love the dynamic of their relationship so much. The give-and-take, the way that they adjusted to each other, their shared love for adventure -- it's all so lovely and grand.
5. What are my thoughts on Alyson Hannigan?
Good actor, with an odd unwillingness to stretch herself. She bowed out of most of the singing in OMWF and she told Joss that she didn't want Willow to go extremely dark because she was afraid that the fans wouldn't forgive her for it. She had a tendency to fall back onto certain 'cutesy' behaviors in some of the later seasons.
But I haven't seen any of How I Met Your Mother yet, so she may have grown in that show (It's on my list!).
6. Exactly how awesome is Xander?
More awesome than watching a star go supernova from the safety of the Doctor's TARDIS.
7. What do I think of Caleb (specifically from a feminist perspective)?
Well, he's pretty much the ultimate representation of misogynist hatred (as I recall... it's been a while since I watch S7), particularly the sort of patriarchial disdain that tends to be wrapped up in much of organized religion. I know that many people felt that he was over-the-top and unrealistic and... well, I wish that I could feel that way, but I don't. Calebs are achingly possible in our world. He's Warren writ large, but one who doesn't feel even the tiny pangs of remorse that Warren appeared to feel.
8. What's my favorite part of Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog?
I have to pick one? Oh, my anon questioner, you make things so hard on me.
First off, I'm a musicals fan. I love them. So, anything where people burst into song automatically gets bumped up about twenty points.
Second, I love the story. It's the deconstruction of The Nice Guy trope. I find the entire thing delightfully meta and the acting (particularly NPH, but the others are fantastic as well) is amazing.
9. Who is my favorite character on Psych?
That is so hard! It depends on the time of day and who's been funny most recently. A lot of the time, it's Shawn, but Gus and Jules both steal the crown from him regularly (Lassiter, the Chief, and Henry do so slightly less frequently).
10. What do I think of the more 'shippy direction that the show has taken Shawn and Jules in?
I'm torn between finding it adorable because the actors are dating or adorable because Shawn and Jules are just that cute. My primary 'ship for the show is Gus/Shawn, but I like Shawn and Jules, too. They're sweet.
11. Would it help or hurt the show to add new characters at this point? (ex. love interest for Shawn)
I adore the cast exactly as it is, but as long as a new character was as well-written as the current ones, I wouldn't have any problems with it.
12. How do I (would I) deal with liking female characters that sections of fandom call sexist (especially if they imply that makes me sexist for liking them)?
It really depends on the context and the circumstances. I actually haven't ever had anyone attempt to directly call me sexist for liking Rose, Lois, or any of the other female characters that I adore, but I have see (in passing) meta that attempts to make the argument that they're characters that are handled in a sexist way (this only irritates me when the people in question act as though it's a given that this is so, rather than their interpretation of the text).
Oftentimes, I find that 'measure twice, cut once' is just as good advice for commenting in public as it is about... actually cutting things. Especially if I'm getting into a heated discussion, I try to back away, take some deep breaths, and remind myself that most people don't act out of malice.
I try not to ever be petty in public -- part of the reason that I sometimes appear so calm online is because I will yell at my computer screen until I can type without telling people off. This mostly works. Not always, but mostly. I also remind myself that the person that I'm talking to is another human being (even sockpuppets are being run by people) and they probably aren't crazy (my mom's stalker ex-boyfriend went off his meds and got arrested for attacking someone with a machete and may end up in a mental institution, so I'm aware that sometimes people are just crazy, but it's not the most likely answer).
I also like to try to reach some sort of accord with the other side -- it doesn't have to be about the subject in question, but the person who hates Rose may agree with me that Tegan is more awesome than she's sometimes given credit for or that Five is the second-favorite Doctor of us both. If I can end the conversation with finding some piece of something in common with them, it tends to cool the heat on both sides.
Occasionally, I have banned people for coming into my journal for the purpose of insulting me (I once had the pleasure of someone telling me that my love of Rose was destroying the show). Some days, I am just too tired for that shit.
I disagree with a lot of people on my flist about a lot of things - just on the Who side, I have people who love Moffat's writing and people who hate Rose in S2 and people who think Jack is a villain. As long as they don't insult me for holding differing views, it's not an issue. I respect them and (hopefully) they respect me. I like them or else I wouldn't have them on my flist. Was that helpful?
1. Can I think of anyone that I would want less as the new showrunner than Moffat?
Probably, if I thought hard enough. None of them were people that seem like they would be anywhere near being asked, though (mostly, I'm thinking of Americans). In some ways, the question is irrelevent, because Moffat crosses my threshold of acceptable viewing. Anyone worse than him, I still wouldn't watch, but that wouldn't be a change.
I suppose that I'd really hate it if, somehow, Kripke (Supernatural) was put in charge of the show, but that's so mind-boggling unlikely that it really isn't even worth considering. It is horrifying, though, now that I'm thinking about it.
2. What do I think of Rose-haters?
People who hate Rose have reasons for it, but if those reasons made sense to me, I'd hate her, too. So, really, it's a bit of both. Mostly, I find a lot of the criticism of Rose to be baffling in the sense that I don't see the canonical base for the arguments -- saying that she's less mature in S2, for example, which is so outside what I see when I watch the show that there really can't be any productive discussions arising from talking about it (or, for that matter, people who feel that Rose is a different character in S2). People who ignore her canon traits of kindness and cleverness confuse me.
Rose does have faults -- her immaturity is something that she outgrows, but she's still inclined to small flare-ups of jealousy in S4 -- nothing that I hate her for, obviously, but if someone has a strong feeling about jealousy or about the way things happened with Mickey and Rose, I can see why they might have hate.
She has such a strong character arc that I can't personally not imagine loving her, but some people hate Daniel Jackson, too. Character love and hate is so personal and subjective.
3. What ships squick me? What pairings do I avoid?
Improper military relationships squick me. This is why I could never ship Sam/Jack, even if I thought they had consistent chemistry (I don't. I feel that they occasionally have chemistry, but it's very erratic). She calls him 'sir' on a daily basis. I can't ship with that.
Roslin/Adama falls under this category, because the two heads of state (civilian and military) in bed together hits all of my 'bad government' buttons hard.
I also don't tend to read enemy slash (with the singular exception of Harry/Draco), even if the pair in question is very slashy (like the Master and the Doctor). It just doesn't get me in the right places.
4. What my favorite OTP?
I think, when it all shakes out, it really is Doctor/Rose. And that's because they take my favorite 'shipping notions about friendship and it's canonical. They got a 'happily ever after'. This is so rare for me, you don't even know (my first big OTP was Buffy/Xander). And I love the dynamic of their relationship so much. The give-and-take, the way that they adjusted to each other, their shared love for adventure -- it's all so lovely and grand.
5. What are my thoughts on Alyson Hannigan?
Good actor, with an odd unwillingness to stretch herself. She bowed out of most of the singing in OMWF and she told Joss that she didn't want Willow to go extremely dark because she was afraid that the fans wouldn't forgive her for it. She had a tendency to fall back onto certain 'cutesy' behaviors in some of the later seasons.
But I haven't seen any of How I Met Your Mother yet, so she may have grown in that show (It's on my list!).
6. Exactly how awesome is Xander?
More awesome than watching a star go supernova from the safety of the Doctor's TARDIS.
7. What do I think of Caleb (specifically from a feminist perspective)?
Well, he's pretty much the ultimate representation of misogynist hatred (as I recall... it's been a while since I watch S7), particularly the sort of patriarchial disdain that tends to be wrapped up in much of organized religion. I know that many people felt that he was over-the-top and unrealistic and... well, I wish that I could feel that way, but I don't. Calebs are achingly possible in our world. He's Warren writ large, but one who doesn't feel even the tiny pangs of remorse that Warren appeared to feel.
8. What's my favorite part of Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along Blog?
I have to pick one? Oh, my anon questioner, you make things so hard on me.
First off, I'm a musicals fan. I love them. So, anything where people burst into song automatically gets bumped up about twenty points.
Second, I love the story. It's the deconstruction of The Nice Guy trope. I find the entire thing delightfully meta and the acting (particularly NPH, but the others are fantastic as well) is amazing.
9. Who is my favorite character on Psych?
That is so hard! It depends on the time of day and who's been funny most recently. A lot of the time, it's Shawn, but Gus and Jules both steal the crown from him regularly (Lassiter, the Chief, and Henry do so slightly less frequently).
10. What do I think of the more 'shippy direction that the show has taken Shawn and Jules in?
I'm torn between finding it adorable because the actors are dating or adorable because Shawn and Jules are just that cute. My primary 'ship for the show is Gus/Shawn, but I like Shawn and Jules, too. They're sweet.
11. Would it help or hurt the show to add new characters at this point? (ex. love interest for Shawn)
I adore the cast exactly as it is, but as long as a new character was as well-written as the current ones, I wouldn't have any problems with it.
12. How do I (would I) deal with liking female characters that sections of fandom call sexist (especially if they imply that makes me sexist for liking them)?
It really depends on the context and the circumstances. I actually haven't ever had anyone attempt to directly call me sexist for liking Rose, Lois, or any of the other female characters that I adore, but I have see (in passing) meta that attempts to make the argument that they're characters that are handled in a sexist way (this only irritates me when the people in question act as though it's a given that this is so, rather than their interpretation of the text).
Oftentimes, I find that 'measure twice, cut once' is just as good advice for commenting in public as it is about... actually cutting things. Especially if I'm getting into a heated discussion, I try to back away, take some deep breaths, and remind myself that most people don't act out of malice.
I try not to ever be petty in public -- part of the reason that I sometimes appear so calm online is because I will yell at my computer screen until I can type without telling people off. This mostly works. Not always, but mostly. I also remind myself that the person that I'm talking to is another human being (even sockpuppets are being run by people) and they probably aren't crazy (my mom's stalker ex-boyfriend went off his meds and got arrested for attacking someone with a machete and may end up in a mental institution, so I'm aware that sometimes people are just crazy, but it's not the most likely answer).
I also like to try to reach some sort of accord with the other side -- it doesn't have to be about the subject in question, but the person who hates Rose may agree with me that Tegan is more awesome than she's sometimes given credit for or that Five is the second-favorite Doctor of us both. If I can end the conversation with finding some piece of something in common with them, it tends to cool the heat on both sides.
Occasionally, I have banned people for coming into my journal for the purpose of insulting me (I once had the pleasure of someone telling me that my love of Rose was destroying the show). Some days, I am just too tired for that shit.
I disagree with a lot of people on my flist about a lot of things - just on the Who side, I have people who love Moffat's writing and people who hate Rose in S2 and people who think Jack is a villain. As long as they don't insult me for holding differing views, it's not an issue. I respect them and (hopefully) they respect me. I like them or else I wouldn't have them on my flist. Was that helpful?
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Date: 2009-02-11 06:44 pm (UTC)And I love that D/R is your favourite OTP. Of course, of course. I think it might be mine, too. :D
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Date: 2009-02-13 04:44 am (UTC)*pets them*
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Date: 2009-02-11 07:09 pm (UTC)This is a very good meme. I may steal it.
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Date: 2009-02-13 04:45 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-11 07:22 pm (UTC)I don't know if this is the case, but I got the feeling that lot of my dislike was relly case of some writers and directors not really get his character and the ctor while not wanting to ignore what they'd told him to do, at the same time knowing his character and having to act a certain way.
After I got this in my head I came to really like him as a character. And just ignore the episodes where his character seemed to be slightly OOC.
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Date: 2009-02-13 04:45 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2009-02-13 04:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-14 07:52 pm (UTC)It's a distinction between her approach and SMG who has done fewer and odder projects in recent years - or Dushku who could play 'damaged bad girl' for a long long time but is doing 'Dollhouse' to get a behind the camera credit and to maybe demonstrate a broader range than most people would otherwise think she has. It could be a failure, and it might not work, but it's definitely ambitious.
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Date: 2009-02-12 01:48 am (UTC)Ahahahahahaha *gigglesnort* Oh fandom.
but if someone has a strong feeling about jealousy or about the way things happened with Mickey and Rose, I can see why they might have hate.
And I love how there are all sorts of arguments and defenses for hating Rose but no one is allowed to dislike another character or writer. If they do, it's only because they're rosefen. It can't possibly be for any other reason, at all.
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Date: 2009-02-13 04:49 am (UTC)DW fandom is entirely made of crack, I swear.
And I love how there are all sorts of arguments and defenses for hating Rose but no one is allowed to dislike another character or writer. If they do, it's only because they're rosefen. It can't possibly be for any other reason, at all.
Yes, the way Rose-haters make every single opinion people who like Rose have to All About Rose is irritating.
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Date: 2009-02-12 02:51 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-13 04:50 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-02-12 07:30 am (UTC)...but I have see (in passing) meta that attempts to make the argument that they're characters that are handled in a sexist way (this only irritates me when the people in question act as though it's a given that this is so, rather than their interpretation of the text.
My thoughts exactly. I can definitely appreciate the ones that are truly addressing characterization problems (even myself as a Lois fan has been irritated, disappointed and angered at certain times by her portrayal) but more often that not, those claims of "Sexist! Misogynistic!" simply come across to me as nothing more than just thinly-veiled attempts to push their own personal agenda. And it sickens me when these supposed supporters for feminism and empowered female characters themselves, resort to bashing with their own sexist remarks, which the hate would usually spill onto the actresses themselves.
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Date: 2009-02-13 04:54 am (UTC)My thoughts exactly. I can definitely appreciate the ones that are truly addressing characterization problems (even myself as a Lois fan has been irritated, disappointed and angered at certain times by her portrayal) but more often that not, those claims of "Sexist! Misogynistic!" simply come across to me as nothing more than just thinly-veiled attempts to push their own personal agenda.
Definitely. There's a huge difference between going "some of Smallville's treatment of Lois Lane is sexist" and saying, "if you like a shallow bimbo like SV's Lois Lane, you are betraying feminism."
And it sickens me when these supposed supporters for feminism and empowered female characters themselves, resort to bashing with their own sexist remarks, which the hate would usually spill onto the actresses themselves.
Oh, yes. So much of that stuff turns into bashing the way the actress looks or uses sexist language.
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Date: 2009-02-13 08:14 am (UTC)... There are NO WORDS. I would have been hard pressed to pick a British tv writer (I watch quite a few Brit series, but they all have FAR less issues than Mofatt), but I think you've hit this one on the head.
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Date: 2009-02-13 01:40 pm (UTC)*shudders*
I watch quite a few Brit series, but they all have FAR less issues than Mofatt
For me, the thing about Moffat's issues is that they're so familiar to me -- he sounds like my dad, talking about how the middle-class white man is disadvantaged. I've heard it all before and I didn't find it believable the first time.