'shipping

[butterfly]

I've been thinking about what I said about my various OTPs and I just realized that there is a thread of commonality through all of them.

I 'ship the people who fit together in my eyes. And that's why I don't 'ship any particular kind of ship, be it 'best friends' or 'enemies' or what have you.

Because everyone is different and I look at it case by case.

I 'ship because of the people, not because of the relationship. My OTPs are always, always my two favorite characters in a fandom.

Buffy/Spike can never work for me because it strikes me as highly unhealthy for Buffy in so many ways (This is still true of souled!Spike. I can't see the good in having a sexual relationship with someone who attacked you.). Harry/Draco works for me because I can see it becoming healthy and good. It also has the chance to turn vicious, but H/D are still so young and Draco is nowhere near as hurtful as Spike.

Buffy/Xander works for me because, although they're similar and very close friends, they still fight and challenge each other in healthy ways - they always, always stop the fight before too long (Dead Man's Party; Revelations/Amends, Seeing Red). Harry/Ron don't work for me because Ron is fully willing to let things fester and turn bitter.

Justin/Lance works because they're not bestest friends in my head. You need to be able to have someone to talk to about your honey when they piss you off, and that's how I see Chris and Joey. As Best Friends, with capitals and all.

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[snackbreak.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I see what you mean, although personally I kind of like the Spike/Buffy thing, because it's not like Buffy hasn't attacked Spike a million times, and besides, Angel and Buffy went after each other a bit to, but they worked it out for a while, kind of.

That's also why I love Mulder/Scully together, because they have this huge loving dynamic friendship/relationship/trustnooneelse thing going on that pretty much makes a big fat arrow that points towards OTP and wuv, twu wuv, and all that.

Or JC and Lance (although I get the Lambs, completely, yes, that works) and how Lance is Joey's best friend and his daughter's godfather, but JC is the sexy tortured artist that he is in love with... sigh...

So, okay, this post kind of lacked much content or new ideas, but I just liked the topic so much I wanted to talk too, what can I say :0)

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[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Hee. But yes, if I had ever watched X-Files, I would probably get the M/S thing. Because I can see the 'aww' even without being a fan.

But yeah, the fact that Buffy also hurts Spike doesn't exactly help their case for me. Especially since she hurt him a lot out of self-hate. And the idea of B/S!S squicks me because it's seems so fucking Luke and Laura. If a guy tries to rape you but then he says that he's better and that he change because of you, you owe him your body and heart. Fuck that. Fuck that with a ten-foot pole.

Heh. You probably weren't expectly such a violent reaction. But I could handle the sadness and wrongness of B/S. I could not handle it if they put them together next year. Tara/Willow getting back together after what Willow did was bad enough, and I love them.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Also, part of the reason that I consider the relationship so unhealthy for Buffy is that she would hurt Spike and use him.

[snackbreak.livejournal.com]

Luke and Laura? Sorry?

And yeah, she would... which is sad, because Spike doesn't deserve that *goes to weep for Spike* Sometimes Buffy pisses me off, she should be nicer to people.. er, non-people.. whatever. Yeah. They should get Dru back, she was one cool chick. And I'll be honest, I haven't watched Buffy for months, I'm a spazmatic watcher at this point, so I probably missed some important relationship issues... but I choose to ignore those for now :-)

Well, except that I'm curious about this owing him your body and your heart thing... does she really? Why?

What I miss most of all, is Xander/Willow because seriously, they were cute, and I don't care if she became a lesbian, she was cute with Xander, and they changed her sexuality once, they can do it again and make her bi or something. Although I do like Tara. Well damn. And now Cordelia is with Angel, so she can't come back and be Xander's girlfriend again. *sigh* so much melodrama. so. much. Yeah, and Dawn is too young I guess. Oh well...

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Luke and Laura are some screwed up soap couple who started dating after he raped. I don't watch, so I only this from other people.

And I don't feel sorry for Spike. In any way. But, yes, that's me.

Well, except that I'm curious about this owing him your body and your heart thing... does she really? Why?

I meant that if she gets together with him, it almost implies that. Which bothers me.

And I can't see W/X together. They're too much the siblings in my head.

[rorylie.livejournal.com]

Hee. Luke and Laura are General Hospital's supercouple from the seventies. They were the big thing, when GH was the number one soap (a lot of which was based on their love story/adventures). Their wedding was actually the highest rated soap episode ever. And now they're going to remarry then supposedly. The whole thing is disgusting but soap operas are horrible with rape storylines everywhere. Basically he was in love with her, she was married to someone else (she was like maybe barely 18 at the time), he thought he was going to die and raped her one night in his disco where she worked. And some time later she realized she loved him, he loved her, they got married and had a couple of kids and become famous (infamous). But yeah, it's horrible, disturibing, and disgusting. A few years ago they did at least show it was a bad thing when their son found out about it and decided he hated his father. But then last year on a show about their 20th anniversay, the network called it a rape/seduction, so more with the disturbing and disgusting. Sorry, rant over.

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[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Ewwww.