*happy sigh*

[butterfly]

I love Season Six Buffy. How often is depression so realistically depicted anywhere? You have the false epiphanies, the backsliding, the hopelessness. And then, it does get better. It always does pass - the depression. Doesn't mean it won't come back, but it does go away.

Pay no attention to me. I'll be over here making icons of pretty Season!Six Buffy. She was gorgeous that season (I think she's gorgeous every season, though). And Season Six has some great lighting.

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[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Well, Willow was the driving force. And... you know, I hate to say this, but how do we know she wasn't influencing Tara with magic at that point?

And Xander... well, Willow summed it up - "It's Buffy." And Xander helps Buffy. That's his thing. "Buffy alive. Me glad." And Anya did it because Xander did.

[lasultrix.livejournal.com]

Yep, I agree. Xander would never have been able to flat-out refuse to help with any plan to bring back Buffy.

Also, the factor that everyone seems to forget in discussing this is that Sunnydale was falling apart without Buffy. The Buffybot scam was just about working, and then it all fell to pieces. Other than getting an assassin in to kill Faith in jail (which, as we saw a bit later, isn't a plan that works very well) and waiting for a new Slayer to arise, they wouldn't have had much of a choice.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Everyone was falling apart. Giles left. None of the four had grieved because they were going to bring Buffy back. Dawn was sleeping with the Buffybot because she felt so alone. Spike was probably the most well-adjusted of the bunch, really.

And yeah, Sunnydale still needed its guardian. No rest for Buffy while there's still Sunnydale.

[grlnamedlucifer.livejournal.com]

>Sunnydale was falling apart without Buffy.<

See, I never understood that either. I mean, what made this summer-without-Buffy any different from when she was in LA with her dad, or when she had run away, or even before she got there?

And couldn't they have called Giles and had him call the Watcher's Council, or that witches coven thing for help? Or used Willow's scarey magic to take them out (since it's obviously powerful enough to raise the dead, I don't get why she wasn't powerful enough to take out random baddies).

I can't remember, did those biker guys start the destruction or was it already going on when they got there?

>kill Faith in jail ... and waiting for a new Slayer to arise<

And heck, if you listen to Season 7 logic there should already be another Slayer running around. ^_-

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I can't remember, did those biker guys start the destruction or was it already going on when they got there?

They started it because they heard the Slayer was dead.

[lasultrix.livejournal.com]

What is this 'Season 7 logic' you speak of?

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Buffy was all talking about how if she died, one of the potentials would become a Slayer. I just think she was wrong. Buffy isn't always right.

[lasultrix.livejournal.com]

Heh! No, I remembered that. I meant that calling it 'logic' is a bit of a stretch.
I don't think we can fall back on 'unreliable narrator' in this case - Buffy would have to have been retarded to have failed to realise that if no new Slayer arose the last time she died, Kendra was probably a once-in-a-deathtime occurence.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Unless she was just trying to spook the potentials. I need to rewatch S7 now (oh, I always need to rewatch everything).

[lasultrix.livejournal.com]

Spooking the potentials? That doesn't make much sense. It'd be a pointless lie. And the truth would be a much better way to spook them ("I could die and then the burden will all fall on you, even though you still won't have special Slayer powers, because Faith's going to be in prison for a long time and she's unlikely to die before her term's up." That would have gone much better with her theme of "You have to fight NOW, you can't just wait around!")

(I didn't mean, of course, that I actually thought Buffy was retarded. Just that the writers apparently think their audience is, if they think we can buy continuity errors like that.)

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Like I said, I need to rewatch the pertinent eps, but my main impression of General Buffy? General Buffy does not make the smartest choices. General Buffy was running scared. General Buffy was a sucky general.

[grlnamedlucifer.livejournal.com]

>And Xander helps Buffy. That's his thing.<

Yeah, I know, but there's a big difference between doing CPR and doing huge magics. But, yeah, it is his thing to help Buffy.

But I somehow don't think Willow fully explained what was going on. I mean, he was pretty shocked about what Willow went through during the spell and then when Spike told him something horrible could've gone wrong it was like he never realized it. I honestly think if it weren't for Willow, the rest would've never considered it.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Oh, yeah, he had no clue about the killing of the fawn or any of that. After all, he wasn't anywhere near the whole thing where Dawn tried to raise Joyce.

And I think that if Buffy had died and Willow hadn't thought of resurrecting her, that Xander would have... he wouldn't have mentioned her again. Like he never mentions Jesse. Like he automatically thought of Buffy in the past tense when she ran away in between S2 and S3. If he can't do anything about something, he suppresses his feelings about it.