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Wow, the dance scene in the Bronze was well-done. Buffy deliberately hurts three people that she loves with just one thing. The levels of ouch in that scene are horrible foreshadowing for the levels of ouch in the season. And I always fixate on Xander's reaction, because it's just so complicated - Willow and Angel are betrayed and hurt, but Xander is betrayed, hurt, confused, and majorly turned-on. His jaw when she grinds up against him... just so much ouch. And his face after she leaves breaks my heart. God, that's a horrible thing to do to someone you know wants you.

Oh, and in our last shot of Xander in the Bronze, Willow is over one shoulder and Cordy is over the other, while Buffy has taken herself out of the picture.

She just uses everything she knows to hurt them. It's a horrible thing to do. But it's still a hell of a sexy dance.

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Date: 2003-12-03 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grlnamedlucifer.livejournal.com
Yup. It was very very well done. And unfortunatly what made my Buffy-love shrivel up and die. Buffy was one of my favorite characters, until I watched this scene and wondered how someone could do that to the guy that loves you, your best friend, and the guy you're kinda with in one fell swoop. I mean, definite thought had to go into that to achieve that much hurt at once.

And it's not even the whole jealous-dance thing that gets me. It's Buffy taunting him about not thanking him for saving her life. That hurt more than the rest of the scene, for me.

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Date: 2003-12-03 02:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
Well, she was trying to drive them away. I forgive her because I love her. Like they do. And I don't think she planned it ahead of time - she just saw that Angel was there, saw that Willow and Xander were there, Xander immediately turned toward her when she got there, and she took advantage of the moment.

But then she doesn't apologize the next day and you can see Xander quietly getting more and more pissed at her through the episode until he finally can't take it anymore. Same thing with him and Angelus in KBD - he's too angry and hurt for the people he cares about to be loud angry. Xander is scariest when he's quiet.

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Date: 2003-12-03 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com
That was a great scene indeed.

Hmm, I'm considering buying S2 on video, second-hand - generally I only pay for Angel, but S2 is my favourite season of Buffy apart from S4 and it hardly ever replays. So damn many great eps.

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Date: 2003-12-03 05:53 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
You should. It's so worth it. I love having all these episodes at my fingertips.

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Date: 2003-12-05 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com
Have been recently discussing this episode on [livejournal.com profile] masqthephlsphr's board. IMHO, despite the lame villains, it's actually the most important episode of the series if one is trying to understand Buffy's characterization. Not only that, it's also the best episode of Season 6.

And that's not a typo.

Buffy's motivations are so subtle and complex, especially in that "Sexy Dance" scene, and I think a lot of people miss a bit of it. She wants to push them away, thinking they might get hurt, and so on. But that's not the only reason she deliberately reminds Xander she hasn't thanked him for saving her life. Namely, she's a bit ambivalent about that point. She doesn't want to die, but she's also not entirely happy to be the slayer either, and aware that death is her only way out. Even that early on, it's one of the signs that at least on a subconscious level, there's a tiny peace of Buffy that would rather be dead so she could be freed of her burden. And no way is Xander going to grasp that.

The biggest thing I like, is how well it foreshadows. Take Cordelia. She doesn't just stand there and snark. Over the season, we'll see that observing Buffy leads Cordy to change herself. The way she looks at Xander when Buffy's dancing with him, and later tells Buffy off, lays the groundwork for Cordy eventually turning away from her superficial friends and superficial life to find "real" ones.

Some time, when you're bored, you should check out
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Have been recently discussing this episode on <lj site="livejournal.com" user="masqthephlsphr">'s board. IMHO, despite the lame villains, it's actually the most important episode of the series if one is trying to understand Buffy's characterization. Not only that, it's also the best episode of Season 6.

And that's not a typo.

Buffy's motivations are so subtle and complex, especially in that "Sexy Dance" scene, and I think a lot of people miss a bit of it. She wants to push them away, thinking they might get hurt, and so on. But that's not the only reason she deliberately reminds Xander she hasn't thanked him for saving her life. Namely, she's a bit ambivalent about that point. She doesn't want to die, but she's also not entirely happy to be the slayer either, and aware that death is her only way out. Even that early on, it's one of the signs that at least on a subconscious level, there's a tiny peace of Buffy that would rather be dead so she could be freed of her burden. And no way is Xander going to grasp that.

The biggest thing I like, is how well it foreshadows. Take Cordelia. She doesn't just stand there and snark. Over the season, we'll see that observing Buffy leads Cordy to change herself. The way she looks at Xander when Buffy's dancing with him, and later tells Buffy off, lays the groundwork for Cordy eventually turning away from her superficial friends and superficial life to find "real" ones.

Some time, when you're bored, you should check out <a http://www.justinleader.com/annotatedbuffy/wswbtranscript.html>The Annotated When She Was Bad Script</a>.

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Date: 2003-12-05 02:08 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
And we get another hint of that in What's My Line. Well, I say hint, I mean huge neon sign.

Buffy: "Y'know, if you don't like the way I'm doing my job, why don't you find somebody else? Oh, that's right, there can only be one. As long as I'm alive, there is no one else. Well, there you go! I don't have to be the Slayer. I could be dead."

Giles: "That wasn't terribly funny. You notice I don't laugh."

Buffy: "Wouldn't be much of a change. Either way I'm bored, constricted, I never get to shop, and my hair and fingernails still continue to grow. So really, when you think about it, what's the diff?"

Yeah. That's quite neon-y

Date: 2003-12-05 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com
Since the link didn't go through, I'm dropping it direct rather than hyperlinking:

http://www.justinleader.com/annotatedbuffy/wswbtranscript.html

I think the annotations run through the first two seasons, but are informed up until S6/3. Some interesting stuff, and very broad perspectives.

Re: Yeah. That's quite neon-y

Date: 2003-12-05 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
Ah, thank you. I'll definitely check it out.

*checks out link*

*squeals*

*decides that she can't leave the site until she's read every single one that's up*

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