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butterflyBeen thinking about Children of the Gods. Specifically, Jack's attitude towards Daniel. He's told, by Hammond, to bring Docter Jackson back. That is part of his reason for going to Abydos.
He walks into that situation knowing that his orders are to take Daniel away from whatever he may have built on Abydos. He doesn't want to let Daniel convince him to disobey orders again. And Daniel is so... familiar with him. "Hey, Jack." Those are words that'll repeat throughout their many greetings. Daniel established himself as Jack's equal in the Stargate movie (not only that, but he decides that Jack is someone that he can trust) and he never settles for less. And Jack spends some time in the first episode trying to show Daniel that whole, crazy military thinking thing.
The problem isn't that Daniel doesn't understand the military mind. He just doesn't feel as though it applies to him and though others may find it valid, it isn't the life for him. Jack is his friend. You don't go around calling friends by their title.
General Hammond, of course, was someone that Daniel had to bend a little in regards towards. But he'd be used to that, too -- General Hammond probably occupied a similiar mental space in his head that his Professors did. You have to do things their way to get through the course. He had to follow some military procedure in order to be a part of the Stargate program.
Daniel has always been willing to go all the way. Over the years, Daniel becomes physically stronger and much more adept at playing the soldier, but he doesn't bend on any of the things that he feels strongly about (which is why the ascension thing was doomed -- Daniel Jackson interferes when it comes to things and people that he cares about. He can't not.). He learns to work around the military mindset and he truly becomes part of a team with SG-1, but even that is almost anti-military, as I understand it. SG-1 is far, far too emotionally bound together. In Divide and Conquer, Jack reveals that he cares a hell of a lot more about Carter than he should. Um. Duh? Jack wasn't the only one refusing to leave a place that was about to explode because a teammate was trapped -- Daniel and Teal'c were doing that dance, too.
But Jack and Sam are military. Sam tells Daniel once that she sometimes forgets that he isn't military. Even Teal'c started out as a soldier. Daniel is, in many ways, a fighter, but he has never been a soldier. Daniel always questions. Daniel always looks for the other side. At the same time, he's no mystic (I adore how baffled he is by Oma's wisdom. Even in Abyss, her wisdom baffles him.). He's a scientist and a scholar. History and evidence and what's missing. Daniel's always looking for what isn't there, for what's wrong. The reason that he was laughed out of academia in the original film wasn't for proposing that aliens built the pyramids. He never suggested the idea. What he said was that the evidence pointed to the fact that the Eygptians couldn't have. The barking dog, if you will. Later, we learn that he's the only person in his field to study the cross-pollination of ancient cultures. Daniel Jackson looks for connections and absences.
Perhaps part of the reason that I adore him is because that is precisely what I look for in media.
He walks into that situation knowing that his orders are to take Daniel away from whatever he may have built on Abydos. He doesn't want to let Daniel convince him to disobey orders again. And Daniel is so... familiar with him. "Hey, Jack." Those are words that'll repeat throughout their many greetings. Daniel established himself as Jack's equal in the Stargate movie (not only that, but he decides that Jack is someone that he can trust) and he never settles for less. And Jack spends some time in the first episode trying to show Daniel that whole, crazy military thinking thing.
The problem isn't that Daniel doesn't understand the military mind. He just doesn't feel as though it applies to him and though others may find it valid, it isn't the life for him. Jack is his friend. You don't go around calling friends by their title.
General Hammond, of course, was someone that Daniel had to bend a little in regards towards. But he'd be used to that, too -- General Hammond probably occupied a similiar mental space in his head that his Professors did. You have to do things their way to get through the course. He had to follow some military procedure in order to be a part of the Stargate program.
Daniel has always been willing to go all the way. Over the years, Daniel becomes physically stronger and much more adept at playing the soldier, but he doesn't bend on any of the things that he feels strongly about (which is why the ascension thing was doomed -- Daniel Jackson interferes when it comes to things and people that he cares about. He can't not.). He learns to work around the military mindset and he truly becomes part of a team with SG-1, but even that is almost anti-military, as I understand it. SG-1 is far, far too emotionally bound together. In Divide and Conquer, Jack reveals that he cares a hell of a lot more about Carter than he should. Um. Duh? Jack wasn't the only one refusing to leave a place that was about to explode because a teammate was trapped -- Daniel and Teal'c were doing that dance, too.
But Jack and Sam are military. Sam tells Daniel once that she sometimes forgets that he isn't military. Even Teal'c started out as a soldier. Daniel is, in many ways, a fighter, but he has never been a soldier. Daniel always questions. Daniel always looks for the other side. At the same time, he's no mystic (I adore how baffled he is by Oma's wisdom. Even in Abyss, her wisdom baffles him.). He's a scientist and a scholar. History and evidence and what's missing. Daniel's always looking for what isn't there, for what's wrong. The reason that he was laughed out of academia in the original film wasn't for proposing that aliens built the pyramids. He never suggested the idea. What he said was that the evidence pointed to the fact that the Eygptians couldn't have. The barking dog, if you will. Later, we learn that he's the only person in his field to study the cross-pollination of ancient cultures. Daniel Jackson looks for connections and absences.
Perhaps part of the reason that I adore him is because that is precisely what I look for in media.
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Date: 2004-08-04 08:08 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-05 05:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-06 10:26 pm (UTC)Now you've got me thinking about this. The specific, separate relationship between each pair, and then the same plus a third...
I tempted to figure this all out for each variation on my journal. Hmmm. I wonder if someone else posted something similar. It'd interesting to read.
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Date: 2004-08-07 04:11 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-08-07 07:56 am (UTC)* I've now started it, progressing fairly quickly in my designated composition notebook of random shit. I'll probably have something ready to post in a couple days, though it'll come with a disclaimer stating I'm still catching up on reruns so I might be leaving out important points. I'll probably continue to add to the post as my gaps of knowledge of the show get filled in, which happens almost every weekday due to Sci Fi's constant airing of Stargate eps.
* I've made some decent headway as far as the pairings, but when I get to the groupings of three, things'll no doubt get a little complicated.
* If and when I catch up on any Jonas eps, things could get really tricky, but for now, sticking with the regular four members.
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Date: 2004-08-07 08:24 am (UTC)(Also, much sympathy. I know first-hand how incredibly frustrating that experience can be.)
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Date: 2004-08-08 06:40 am (UTC)Thanks for the sympathy. I'm such a whiner. When I post this team/pairings dynamics thing I'm going to make sure it's completely finished in my notebook before typing it up and suffering a repeat experience.