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[butterfly]

cesperanza and deifire -- your stuff has been sent and should be there in about a week. Other peoples -- I may have a chance to get to the Post Office again on... Friday, looks like.

Wow, I've been busy recently.

And I'm busy during business hours, which means that though I have time, it's not particularly useful time.

Rewatched some of S6 and have noticed several things -- I'm still very much attracted to Xander over Spike (it's the melty eyes and the snark in danger -- he's so a young Jack (SG-1), btw), the grief for Tara is actually pretty there and powerful, and Buffy got and gave quite a few hugs in those last few episodes. Very nice, the hugging.

And Spike's hero journey starts in the final leg of S6. He bites off more than he can chew -- thinks he's found a way to get Buffy, the way that Angel had her, and boy does he get surprised. Overall, I find Spike's journey very satisfying, start to finish. He was a true and independent hero, by end of Angel. Good for him.

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[trepkos.livejournal.com]

And Spike's hero journey starts in the final leg of S6.

Go Spikey - but don't you think it starts late in season 5?
He tries to help Dawn for her own sake, I'm sure, and he's clearly stuck at the babysitting, even when he thinks Buffy's gone for good...

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

But then he abandons her once Buffy is back.

[spacedoutlooney.livejournal.com]

He doesn't abandon her; once Buffy is resurrected, she is supposed to take up all her old responsibilities, that the gang had taken over for her, namely patrolling and caring for Dawn. (I'm not arguing that that's fair or good or right, just that everyone, including Buffy sees this as the case). Buffy tries to fulfill her role as the Hero (including caring for Dawn) despite really not wanting to, and doesn't ask anyone in the gang for help (foisting all decision making off on Giles doesn't count); everyone in the gang is too wrapped up in their own lives to offer help. Spike promises to do whatever Buffy wants him to do; if that means protecting Dawn or helping to save her (as he did in All The Way, was going to in Once More With Feeling, Wrecked, Older And Far Away, probably would have if he had been there in Villians), so be it. Once Buffy/Spike began their affair, Buffy made it clear on a number of occasions that she didn't want him around Dawn or the gang for the most part; she wanted to keep those two parts of her life separate.

Sorry, that was a long ramble; I just take issue with people saying that the Spike/Dawn friendship disappeared in season 6 because I don't think it did.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Buffy made it clear on many, many occasions that she didn't want Spike hanging around Dawn and lots of them were in the fifth season. Spike didn't pay attention to it then.

I do think that we don't see them being friends, which may not be the same as then not being friends, but looks the same. They lose their closeness, I think, and then Dawn gets hit with the 'Spike tried to rape Buffy' bomb in Grave and their friendship never recovers from that, from what I remember.

[trepkos.livejournal.com]

Well, yeah, but Buffy isn't exactly welcoming...
...I think on the meta level, the writers just decided to drop the freindship arc. Probably thought it wasn't painful enough.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Also, apparently Dawn was looking too hot and they were squicked by the idea of Dawn/Spike subtext. Who said that? One of the writers, I think. Maybe Marti.

[trepkos.livejournal.com]

It's a fair point - they did have good on-screen chemistry.

[jic]

Awwww! Yes, after SG-1, there must be Buffy. *nods emphatically*

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

The Buffy is good. Long live the Buffy.

[teaphile.livejournal.com]

he's so a young Jack (SG-1)

And that similarity is the subject of more than a few crossover stories, both good and bad.

I've been watching bits and pieces of S6, too. Once again I wept at Life's A Show in OMWF.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

And that similarity is the subject of more than a few crossover stories, both good and bad.

I've found one of each. Any clue where others might be? I find myself interested.

Once again I wept at Life's A Show in OMWF.

Oh, my poor sweet Buffy. Love her.

[teaphile.livejournal.com]

Any clue where others might be?

I have this one (http://homepage.mac.com/dsample/Fics/Misunderstandings/index.html) bookmarked, but I don't can't remember if I enjoyed it or not. I think I did.

Also, the archive Twisting the Hellmouth (http://www.tthfanfic.com/) has a large section of SG crossovers, not all good.