Before and after. Torchwood could have been on the ship somewhere.
But on the other hand, do we really want Yet Another Torchwood Anvil. Small mercy for which I thank the heavens, yo.
Do you mean the 'so glad I met you' in Unquiet Dead? Because, while that scene makes me go all fluttery inside, I don't think of it as primarily romantic. I think of it as a really sweet friendship moment, maybe a defining moment, where Rose realizes the thing that Reinette feels the need to tell her in Girl, that knowing the Doctor is worth the danger you have to put up with. It's one of the moments that makes the romantic stuff work for me later on.
If they'd started pushing it in S2 I could maybe have gone for it, but S1 is so damn heavy on selling Rose to a totally unearned degree. The Adam thing is just awful, we get a Dalek proclaiming their love, blah blah fishcakes. It's not subtle and it really doesn't get any sort of context.
Until S2, when it involves a grand retcon, someone's dead mistress and the rather harsh "normalising" of Rose. All good work, all a bit late.
I suppose... I don't believe that people fall in love because they know everything all about a person. I think (and this is based entirely on my own experiences) that love, strong real love, develops out of friendship. Out of people finding things that they have in common and enjoy together.
In which case, GitF didn't need to even try the mindmeld if it's just Something Inexplicable.
Even then, what do the Doctor and Rose have in common? Other than that she's in on his lifestyle by dint of... being there at the right time.
It seemed to work for quite a few old school Doctor Who fans, from what I read.
I think it helped that she was educated, accomplished and older than 19? Nah, I really do think it hit the type a bit closer for us.
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Date: 2006-06-30 09:57 pm (UTC)But on the other hand, do we really want Yet Another Torchwood Anvil. Small mercy for which I thank the heavens, yo.
Do you mean the 'so glad I met you' in Unquiet Dead? Because, while that scene makes me go all fluttery inside, I don't think of it as primarily romantic. I think of it as a really sweet friendship moment, maybe a defining moment, where Rose realizes the thing that Reinette feels the need to tell her in Girl, that knowing the Doctor is worth the danger you have to put up with. It's one of the moments that makes the romantic stuff work for me later on.
If they'd started pushing it in S2 I could maybe have gone for it, but S1 is so damn heavy on selling Rose to a totally unearned degree. The Adam thing is just awful, we get a Dalek proclaiming their love, blah blah fishcakes. It's not subtle and it really doesn't get any sort of context.
Until S2, when it involves a grand retcon, someone's dead mistress and the rather harsh "normalising" of Rose. All good work, all a bit late.
I suppose... I don't believe that people fall in love because they know everything all about a person. I think (and this is based entirely on my own experiences) that love, strong real love, develops out of friendship. Out of people finding things that they have in common and enjoy together.
In which case, GitF didn't need to even try the mindmeld if it's just Something Inexplicable.
Even then, what do the Doctor and Rose have in common? Other than that she's in on his lifestyle by dint of... being there at the right time.
It seemed to work for quite a few old school Doctor Who fans, from what I read.
I think it helped that she was educated, accomplished and older than 19? Nah, I really do think it hit the type a bit closer for us.