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Ow. My heart got just a bit ripped out there.

I started crying when Owen demanded to be given one good reason why he shouldn't scream his way into the grave and Tosh said, "Because you're breaking my heart," and then I continued weeping on and off until the ending.

I wish that Tosh and Owen hadn't died, but, oh, those were really good deaths. Earned, powerful deaths.

Fantastically, painfully done. Two thumbs up to Chris Chibnall, who has been absolutely on the ball with all of his episodes this series.

All of the characters were amazing this episode -- our mains and all the secondaries as well. Gwen was so good, strong but with her uncertainties and still needing the people who love her to give her support.

Jack has been forced to have so much practice with forgiveness. And if Jack had ever been questioning just why the Doctor found losing the Master so painful, this episode would have shown him exactly why.

Ianto had the least to do, but I felt his presence acutely in all of his scenes.

Tosh and Owen broke my hearts, but I've said that already. And we got canon on the 'doctor' Sato in Doctor Who -- she was covering for Owen! Perfect and lovely and... oh, Tosh.

I love this show and these people so much.

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Date: 2008-04-05 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com
Exactly. TW is a dark place to live in and they were really willing to go there this series -- not just with Tosh and Owen but, as you mention, with the horror of what happens to Jack. He needs his Ianto and Gwen right now, very much.
There was such a quiet desperation between the three of them. I like that it was just the three of them at the end. We had resolution with Jack and John and Rhys supported Gwen - but it fit that it was the three of them at the end.

I think so, too. They've been quite good with Jack's character continuity between the two shows.
There is so many places they can go with this. We have baggage from Torchwood that needs to be dealt with, and we need some resolution with Rose, Jack and the bad wolf stuff and I can imagine the many ways that Jack could develop with the Doctor, even more so since the Grey thing was clearly a parallel to the Master. And omg he'd be great with Donna, I'm sure of it.

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Date: 2008-04-05 09:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
There was such a quiet desperation between the three of them. I like that it was just the three of them at the end. We had resolution with Jack and John and Rhys supported Gwen - but it fit that it was the three of them at the end.

It really did. It needed just to be them at the very end, grieving for the ones they'd lost. And that ending was so beautifully-acted, as well. Their pain was so visible and aching.

There is so many places they can go with this. We have baggage from Torchwood that needs to be dealt with, and we need some resolution with Rose, Jack and the bad wolf stuff and I can imagine the many ways that Jack could develop with the Doctor, even more so since the Grey thing was clearly a parallel to the Master. And omg he'd be great with Donna, I'm sure of it.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing what will happen.

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Date: 2008-04-05 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com
It really did. It needed just to be them at the very end, grieving for the ones they'd lost. And that ending was so beautifully-acted, as well. Their pain was so visible and aching.
And the music! Just hearing some of the notes chokes me up. I love the music the BBC does with these series.

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Date: 2008-04-06 03:14 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
The music is so well-done on both TW and DW. I will actually listen to the music all by itself sometimes and I don't generally ever to that.

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Date: 2008-04-06 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com
This is the only fandom that outside of some animes that have done that to me. I can't wait to see Donna's theme develop. If it's as half as good as Martha's..

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