Torchwood: Adrift

[butterfly]

That episode kicked so much ass. I adore the Gwen/Jack/Ianto dynamic so much.

I’m so amused that I was just talking about how flipping awesome (and yet flawed and interesting) Gwen is and what fabulous chemistry she has with people and we get an episode where she displays all of those terrific qualities. I requested more Tosh/Gwen scenes and we had... conspiracy! Squee! Jack invited Gwen to join him and Ianto for naked fun time and it was really, really hot (the invitation -- if she’d taken them up on it, our computer screens would have all melted, I’m sure, as Gwen is... a very sexy lady *eyebrows*). And the Gwen/Rhys scene at the end was very adorable.

So, new episode this Friday! And then the finale next week, I think? And I heard a little bird say that the new season of Doctor Who might be starting up on April 5th.

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[kita0610.livejournal.com]

Apparently the finale is April 4th?

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Ooo. Thanks. Wait... what's happening next Friday then? Because this episode was the eleventh episode and if they're doing 12 on Friday, then are they not doing anything on the 28th?

[kita0610.livejournal.com]

That's what Fod said. She got her info. from Digital Spy, apparently.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I'll go with that. They definitely said this Friday for the next one, which thrills me to pieces. Yay!

[kita0610.livejournal.com]

Yes, the next one is Fri., for certain.

SQUEEAL.

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

The episode this Friday is airing on BBC3, then it's airing again on the main channel next Friday. Then they're holding off on the finale to air on the main channel on the 4th. I think. So essentially, there will be no new episode next week.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Thanks!

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

I adore the Gwen/Jack/Ianto dynamic so much.
I do to. I think I might like it more than the Doctor/Jack/Rose one. Though that could be lack of new canon speaking.

And I heard a little bird say that the new season of Doctor Who might be starting up on April 5th.
I hope so.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I do to. I think I might like it more than the Doctor/Jack/Rose one. Though that could be lack of new canon speaking.

Hmm.

*wonders about Jack/Rose/Tenth Doctor chemistry*

Gwen/Jack/Ianto are so shiny and new! Of course, it's Jack, so we don't really have to choose.

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Now see when I get Ten, Rose and Jack together again then my mood may change. Because I totally need closure/development with bad wolf/time wars and the three of them are part of it and I'm sure the show will give it to me.

But right now I really want lots of Jack, Ianto and Gwen.

Of course, it's Jack, so we don't really have to choose.
That's what I love best about him.

AND LIKE IN THIS VERY EPISODE WHEN GWEN WAS TALKING ABOUT KNOWING WHERE THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE ARE WHEN THEY'RE GONE AND JACK JUST LOOKING AWAY HURT REALLY GOOD.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Now see when I get Ten, Rose and Jack together again then my mood may change. Because I totally need closure/development with bad wolf/time wars and the three of them are part of it and I'm sure the show will give it to me.

Yes! I'm looking forward to that! This show delivers on its emotional promises.

But right now I really want lots of Jack, Ianto and Gwen.

Squee! Yes. I have so much Jack, Ianto, and Gwen love. I need to find (or make) an OT3 icon for them, because the love is very strong.

AND LIKE IN THIS VERY EPISODE WHEN GWEN WAS TALKING ABOUT KNOWING WHERE THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE ARE WHEN THEY'RE GONE AND JACK JUST LOOKING AWAY HURT REALLY GOOD.

*nods*

I immediately thought of "Utopia" and him saying, "I have to ask..." Because Jack knows what it's like to suspect someone's dead but hope that they aren't and... yes. He loves his Rose very much and his Doctor and his Ianto and Gwen (and Tosh and Owen and...).

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Yes! I'm looking forward to that! This show delivers on its emotional promises.
I was really pleased that for the Doctor, Jack is life after a war that only brought death for him. And that Rose is so intertwined with it. I JUST NEED THEM BACK TOGETHER FOR A BIT.

Squee! Yes. I have so much Jack, Ianto, and Gwen love. I need to find (or make) an OT3 icon for them, because the love is very strong.
It took me forever to find this one. *shakes fists at fandom for not sharing my tastes*

I was also thinking that is now wondering if Rose is okay. She's trapped. Jack (and the Doctor) don't know what Rose is up to and they both know she's not one not to take risks. I HAVE A FEELING THAT JACK SPENDS WAY TOO MUCH TIME THINKING ROSE IS HURT IN ATL!WORLD WHILE THE DOCTOR TRIES NOT TO THINK OF ANYTHING BUT ROSE BEING HAPPY.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I was really pleased that for the Doctor, Jack is life after a war that only brought death for him. And that Rose is so intertwined with it. I JUST NEED THEM BACK TOGETHER FOR A BIT.

Yes. I need my DW OT3 time!

It took me forever to find this one. *shakes fists at fandom for not sharing my tastes*

*joins with the fist-shaking*

I'll have to make one, I suspect.

I was also thinking that is now wondering if Rose is okay. She's trapped. Jack (and the Doctor) don't know what Rose is up to and they both know she's not one not to take risks. I HAVE A FEELING THAT JACK SPENDS WAY TOO MUCH TIME THINKING ROSE IS HURT IN ATL!WORLD WHILE THE DOCTOR TRIES NOT TO THINK OF ANYTHING BUT ROSE BEING HAPPY.

Dude, that's such a (horribly sad) good point. They have no way of knowing whether or not she's alive and they're both very aware that she is not a person who avoids risks. Oh! *wibbles for Jack's heart*

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Yes. I need my DW OT3 time!
They better hug. And I want some gun action. I AM SHALLOW AND BILLIE PIPER IS HOT.

I'll have to make one, I suspect.
I look forward to it.

Dude, that's such a (horribly sad) good point. They have no way of knowing whether or not she's alive and they're both very aware that she is not a person who avoids risks. Oh! *wibbles for Jack's heart*
And then we have the Doctor - he has no idea what he's up to (and god the Doctor in VoTD broke my heart) and his brother. It's not wonder he's so attached to his team and how frantic he was about saving Owen. He's just as tired of losing people as the Doctor.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

They better hug. And I want some gun action. I AM SHALLOW AND BILLIE PIPER IS HOT.

Agreed! On all counts! Billie Piper = hotter than a pissed-off sun!

And then we have the Doctor - he has no idea what he's up to (and god the Doctor in VoTD broke my heart) and his brother. It's not wonder he's so attached to his team and how frantic he was about saving Owen. He's just as tired of losing people as the Doctor.

Yes. It's really easy to understand why he was unable to let go of Owen. He's lost too many damn people. He's not ready to say goodbye to anyone else he loves.

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Agreed! On all counts! Billie Piper = hotter than a pissed-off sun!
I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL SHE SHOWS UP ON DOCTOR WHO AGAIN.

Yes. It's really easy to understand why he was unable to let go of Owen. He's lost too many damn people. He's not ready to say goodbye to anyone else he loves.
And he's opened up to these guys more than anyone since the Doctor and Rose. It's going to kill him when they die. :(

[fodian.livejournal.com]

I adore the Gwen/Jack/Ianto dynamic so much.

God, me, too. I loved that scene where Gwen wants to pursue the missing persons cases and Jack is immovable and Ianto goes to bat for Gwen. I wish to god there were more Ianto&Gwen fics out there as well. I love them to pieces.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

They are so wonderful together! I could watch an entire episode with just the two of them talking about Jack! It would be brilliant! That scene was so fantastic. Ianto playing both sides -- lovely! Jack being all casual with his nudity (as he is!). Gwen being embarrassed and then determined and very hot!

[cassandrarose.livejournal.com]

I've always loved Gwen and have never understood the hate for her that seems to run through the fandom - so it's nice to see someone else sharing the appreciation. I love that she makes mistakes. How boring would it have been if she'd been completely perfect all the time? She's always felt so real to me, and I love how Eve Myles plays her. That woman does emotion so well she's moved me to tears watching her more than once.

I hope April 5th is going to be the air date for new Doctor Who. Catherine Tate's going to be on Jonathan Ross on the 4th, so I've read, so the evening after such a big promo event would be a good time to air the season opener.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

People hating Gwen (especially if they do this while loving Owen and Jack) is so bizarre to me -- oh, she's a strong female character who makes mistakes. Clearly, this makes her the spawn of Satan who must be spit upon and despised by all right-thinking viewers. There's so little logic in the hate, as they tend to hate her for both a) being a 'Mary Sue' and b) being an incredible fuck-up. It is impossible for her to be these two things at the same time, just by definition.

Seriously, 'Mary Sue' is just a codeword for 'female character the lead male is attracted to' (with the implied message of 'how dare she pretend that he's attracted to her' -- because it's always her fault and she's delusional anyway, of course. *rolls eyes*) these days. If it ever had real value as a term, it's lost it by now.

[cassandrarose.livejournal.com]

I'm sick of the Mary Sue label being thrown about. If Gwen's a Mary Sue, so is Rose, so is Martha...and Jack is probably one of the most blatant Sue's any fandom's ever seen. Yet they don't get hated on. But Gwen, for some reason, is possibly one of the most frequently bashed characters ever.

What really annoys me though is when people act like Jack or Ianto have a problem with her. They don't. Jack, generally, respects her a lot. Ianto considers her a friend - something that's been heavily touched on in series two especially. They like her, and it's something a lot of Jack/Ianto shippers need to grow up and deal with because this whole idea that they don't have any respect or time for her spoils a lot of fics.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

But Gwen, for some reason, is possibly one of the most frequently bashed characters ever.

It's so frustrating. Yes, she screws up, but she hasn't screwed up worse than anyone else at Torchwood, so there's no reason why people should hate her while loving Owen, Ianto, Tosh and Jack.

What really annoys me though is when people act like Jack or Ianto have a problem with her. They don't. Jack, generally, respects her a lot. Ianto considers her a friend - something that's been heavily touched on in series two especially. They like her, and it's something a lot of Jack/Ianto shippers need to grow up and deal with because this whole idea that they don't have any respect or time for her spoils a lot of fics.

Indeed. It's pretty clear that both the guys are very fond of her. I actually haven't read any J/I fic (despite finding them hot) for precisely this reason -- I see enough demonizing of Gwen in meta and around fandom; I don't need to see it in fiction.