butterfly: (Reporter -- Lois Lane (by eowynguilia))
[personal profile] butterfly

Apparently there are people who see a conflict between Lois's S4 advice to Chloe re: secrets and what she has to say to Clark here. I'm (again) rather baffled by that.

Aside: Smallville may be the most baffling fandom ever. Seriously, though I never believed in the whole 'Spike can be good without a soul' theory, I could understand where it was coming from. Most of what the vocal bits of Smallville fandom say makes no sense to me. It's like I'm living in an alternate universe... or they are. Something.

Anyway, Lois's advice regarding secrets seems to all hold together from what I can tell.

A) She knows that Clark has secrets (he's saved her life a couple of times, Chloe implies more than once that there's something going on with him, and the Kents as a group are incredibly tight-mouthed about a lot and Lois noticed that). She doesn't really care. They're his secrets.

B) This approach is both told to us in her advice to Chloe ("I wouldn't tell [the person that I knew their secret]. I've learned the hard way that people keep secrets for a reason.") and shown to us in her actions towards Clark (most noticeably in the gift of the journal, which is implicit permission to keep secrets).

C) However, when faced with a particular reason to keep secrets, namely, to 'protect loved ones', Lois calls 'bullshit'. And not only is Clark's reasoning faulty, but it isn't even (mostly) true.

Clark has never been lying mostly to protect others -- he lies to protect himself (the one exception that I can think of is Reckoning, when he had reason to believe that knowing his secret would lead directly to Lana's death). Lying to protect others demonstrably does not work (just look at all the concussions Lex, Lana, and Lois have all gotten while not knowing secrets). And when we've been allowed to look into Clark's fears, we see him being hurt by knowledge of his secrets, and not (generally) other people.

Lying to protect other people simply doesn't work (it totally didn't work with Lex, and Chloe was in danger just as often before she knew Clark's secret). Clark himself admits in his conversation with Oliver that loving someone and not telling them the truth about yourself just leads to a short and unhealthy relationship.

Seriously, not seeing the contradiction here.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-27 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huzzlewhat.livejournal.com
Yes, yes, exactly!!! There's a difference between saying that it's all right to keep secrets, and saying that this particular reason for keeping secrets is bullshit, because it's a different question — it's the difference between what and why. There's no contradiction in Lois' reasoning, because there's absolutely no indication that she thinks — or Clark thinks, for that matter — that protecting others is the only reason someone might want to keep a secret.

(no subject)

Date: 2006-10-27 09:40 pm (UTC)
ext_1774: butterfly against blue background (Default)
From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
There's no contradiction in Lois' reasoning, because there's absolutely no indication that she thinks — or Clark thinks, for that matter — that protecting others is the only reason someone might want to keep a secret.

Exactly. Honestly, I really should just not read the SV section of TWoP, because I just can't even take them even a little seriously anymore. They make so little sense and overlook so many things in the text that they're practically mocking themselves.

Profile

butterfly: (Default)
butterfly

April 2019

S M T W T F S
 123456
78 910 111213
14151617181920
21222324252627
282930    

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios