Stargate SG-1 Moebius (1) Thoughts

[butterfly]

So, what were the differences?

We get the set-up for Daniel in his speech at Catherine's funeral -- this is a Daniel who didn't get a chance to recover from his crash and burn in academia. That's all that needs to be different for us to get the Daniel we see in Moebius.

The 'gate was found in '34 instead of '28, which is why no Catherine, probably.

ETA: The dig occurred in '34, no gate was found. Which, in light of them not getting a gate until the end of the episode, duh, huh? Thanks for reminding me, katie_m.

No Stargate, no 1969. No Gen. Hammond finding out about the importance of Jack, Sam, Teal'c, and Daniel. Hammond is only a one-star general here, where in our timeline, he's leapt to a three-star. He shows no pre-knowledge of Sam Carter. It's possible that he met Jacob in the first place because he knew that his guests were from the future.

Sam doesn't have the confidence that we know she's capable of -- several possibilities, though the one that comes to my mind is that perhaps Jacob Carter did go pick up his wife at the airport that day, and they both died. She'd be a bit like Daniel -- a brilliant orphan. Or, the reverse -- with her mom alive, Dad didn't have all the influence.

Kinsey got the Presidency. That's depressing.

Man, the Jaffa are all slaves again, which is really sad, considering that they just got their freedom.

And Atlantis doesn't exist -- McKay is still on Earth and they didn't even get a Stargate until the end of the episode.

Jack didn't get the suicide mission from the SGC. Didn't shoot himself, but he's not 'living'.

I adored alt!Daniel and alt!Sam. Sam was a bit overdone, but it came across as twittery self-defense in the vein of Fred (on Angel). And I adored the connection that Sam and Daniel had after only a short time knowing each other. Like, somewhere inside, they know that they're part of something together.

And Jack felt it too -- I loved his uncertain look after Daniel and Sam visited him. He wasn't at all conflicted about sending Samuels away. But Daniel and Sam connected with him, even though he fought it off.

I adored all the Daniel stuff in the beginning. Whips and suits and interrupting. Much cuteness.

Comments

[scrollgirl.livejournal.com]

Hmm. From all the reviews I've been reading, I don't think I could watch this episode as if it were canon. I'd take it as a kind of fanfic that I might enjoy (it does sound like fun in places) but don't feel obligated to acknowledge as canon.

I like your thoughts anyway, especially General Hammond. I've always figured he must have followed Sam's career closely, knowing he was going to meet her "again" earlier in life. So maybe never having "met" her, Hammond didn't take an interest in Sam, or didn't even know the Carters, and that explains why Sam isn't military. *shrug* Makes as much sense as anything else, I suppose!

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Half of my fun is figuring out how things can go together. This is what I thought of with just two viewings. I'll probably have more theories after I watch more... and after next week's finale!

From all the reviews I've been reading, I don't think I could watch this episode as if it were canon. I'd take it as a kind of fanfic that I might enjoy (it does sound like fun in places) but don't feel obligated to acknowledge as canon.

Way I figure, it's on screen, it's canon. I can hate it or love it, but I accept it. If I dislike what a show is doing that much, I stop watching. But this is me. Everyone interacts differently with what they love.

I like your thoughts anyway, especially General Hammond. I've always figured he must have followed Sam's career closely, knowing he was going to meet her "again" earlier in life. So maybe never having "met" her, Hammond didn't take an interest in Sam, or didn't even know the Carters, and that explains why Sam isn't military. *shrug* Makes as much sense as anything else, I suppose!

Honestly, I do think that RCC and Co. think more deeply about this stuff than people give them credit for. I may not like all of their conclusions, but I can see how they got them.

[scrollgirl.livejournal.com]

Way I figure, it's on screen, it's canon. I can hate it or love it, but I accept it. If I dislike what a show is doing that much, I stop watching. But this is me. Everyone interacts differently with what they love.

Normally I would too. But considering this is kind of like their "last" season (as a Jack-inclusive, OT4 season) I'm allowing myself a bit of leeway to interpret canon a little differently. *g* But that's just me :)

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

It's twisting the word 'canon', which bugs the part of me that deeply cares about word meaning, but that happens almost every time that anyone says 'ironic', so it's nothing new.

I can definitely understand the urge to only call certain things canon, but I couldn't ever do it myself.

[moojja.livejournal.com]

I wont worry about the canon part. When you seen part two, you'll know what I mean.

[fanaddict.livejournal.com]

I actually thought Sam and Daniel connected, not because they actually felt the connection per se, but because they both longed for what was implied in the video tape about who they were when they were a team. I actually didn't think Jack connected very strongly, and that was primarily because he didn't see the tape to know who he could have been as part of the larger group.

I guess what I'm saying if that I didn't feel as if there was supposed to be some sense of "recognition/belongingness" between them because as a team they were Meant To Be. I felt that they were all damaged creatures glimpsing a future that could have been so different and wanting it, thus bonding with each other over that desire.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'm just an incredible sap. It can definitely read either way. I'm just going to choose the mushy, sweet explanation.

[katie-m.livejournal.com]

The 'gate was found in '34 instead of '28, which is why no Catherine, probably.

The Stargate wasn't found at all--I'd assume Catherine existed (she was a child when her father found the Gate) but it's impossible to know what happened to her.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Thank you. I mean, part of me remembered that, but it wasn't the part that was conscious, apparently.