Doctor Who: Trailer for the back half of S4

[butterfly]

So, I've previously asked, "What did Rose see when she looked in the TARDIS?"

After seeing this trailer, I've got another question -- what did Gwyneth see?

"The things you've seen... the darkness... the big bad wolf." And we mostly just assumed that 'the darkness' meant the dark and dangerous things that Rose would face. Except in this trailer, Rose says that what's coming is 'the darkness'. Did Gwyneth see a hint of this in Rose's future? What's so 'the' about this darkness?

I love the way the Doctor says, "Yeah," when Donna says that Rose coming back is good, no matter what else is happening. Because, yes, it is. No matter what else is going on, Rose coming back is a good thing.

So, Rose saying, "Right, now we're in trouble," strike anyone else as very Doctor-ish?

Also, was the top half of one of those Daleks in the trailer enveloped in darkness? Interesting.

Now, for your moment of squee:

ROSE! YAY!

Comments

[shinyopals.livejournal.com]

Rose sounds incredibly Doctor-ish throughout. I noticed it when she's talking to Donna, but the "now we're in trouble" is Doctor-ish as well.

Agreeing with the squee.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I'm so excited about seeing Rose. And she's definitely changed since she's been gone (appropriately enough, as the Doctor has, too).

[starlightmoonla.livejournal.com]

The squee is hard to get rid of, at the very least controlled today. ^_^"

I do have to agree that Rose does a bit Doctor-ish throughout the trailer. It'll be very interesting to see/hear what has happened to her and how much time has come and gone for her.

Oh and thank you! I've been trying to remember where else I had heard "the Darkness" bit and Gwyneth was definitely one of them. I wonder if that phrase has come up anywhere else.

[spookysen.livejournal.com]

I could be wrong with this, but I think that the darkness was mentioned in the ep where Torchwood started, with Queen Victoria? (I can't even remember the name of it :$). Anyway, that's just coming to mind for some reason, so maybe it is mentioned. :) But the Gwyneth thing is totally cool. I wonder if they'll ever tie her into Torchwood's Gwen.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

The trailer was incredibly exciting. I'm very much looking forward to how RTD's story goes.

[shaela]

After seeing this trailer, I’ve got another question—what did Gwyneth see?

Things really are coming full circle, aren’t they? I thought last week’s reference to “The Unquiet Dead” was just a joke, but… *grins*

No matter what else is going on, Rose coming back is a good thing.

That’s pretty much how I feel about the finale at the moment. No matter what else happens, I’ll get to see Rose again. I can’t quite bring myself to care about anything else.

Now, for your moment of squee: ROSE! YAY!

OMG ROSE!!!

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Rose! Yay!

[voldything.livejournal.com]

She looks so badass, so badass. I cannot possibly contain my excitement omg

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

She looks intensely badass. I'm going to be very curious about the Doctor's reaction to her Big Ass Gun, considering how gun-shy he's been since the Master was shot.

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

adfa aksdfas I WANT THE EPISODES SO MUCH.


Rose <3333333333

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Yes! I want to see the finale now! Can't we skip the Moffat episodes?

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Yes please. It's not like they'll be relevant to anything.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Maybe this time will be different!

*thinks*

*laughs*

Yeah... I won't hold my breath on that one.

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

I wonder if the developments will matter after this episode.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Well, in theory, since it's all going to be his story now, what he does will matter in S5. However since he doesn't actually seem to remember anything but gags between each of his own prior episodes and has stated that he doesn't think that DW needs continuity... yeah, not so much, I think.

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Besides the Doctor is a man and a man doesn't care about marriage!

[sol-se.livejournal.com]

I haven't watched the trailer yet, but didn't "the darkness" get mentioned a few times on Torchwood with no follow up? Either Owen or Jack talked about "the darkness" waiting or coming for them...or something.

[pluckyyounggirl.livejournal.com]

Oh, my. Oh my oh my oh my. You're right. It absolutely DID get mentioned. And in such an utterly cheesy way with no follow-up whatsoever that it annoyed me highly, but then I decided not think about it anymore because Torchwood makes my head hurt like that.

I'm going to have to rewatch Torchwood S2 now, won't I?

And I haven't seen SJA, but maybe someone knows if it may have been mentioned there, as well?

[larissa-j.livejournal.com]

Didn't Suzie also mention the darkness in Season 1 of Torchwood?

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

Yes, when she came back. Suzie, then maybe Bilis? And then Owen. There may have been someone else as well, but I can't remember.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Suzie mentioned specifically that something in the darkness was coming for Jack, I think.

Speculation: if the darkness is death, then the 'thing coming for Jack' is actually Rose as Bad Wolf, bringing him back to life whenever he slips into that darkness.

[dividedloyalty.livejournal.com]

Now, a badass Rose is something that strikes my fancy terribly! I'm a bit more excited about her return! yeay.

And I think Torchwood dabbled into the Darkness thing a bit, but for when people died, no? I don't remember actually.

It was a very good midseries trailer :D Me likey it. And me lovey The Doctor.

[larissa-j.livejournal.com]

Torchwood did indeed dabble into the darkness. I remember Owen mentioning it and I think a few others have said something about it as well. Suzie was the first, wasn't she?

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Badass Rose looked totally awesome. I'm looking forward to seeing her again so much!

[pluckyyounggirl.livejournal.com]

OMFG you're brilliant. That is a brilliant, brilliant connection, and I WILL have Russell's babies if he really conencts it all back to that. Because... that would be the aweseomest thing is all of awesome Awesomedonia.

Rose is very Doctor-ish, but also very Rose-ish. It's a good thing.

I can't even tell you how excited I am. Now even more than I was before.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

They've been making so many S1 references. I'd love it if it's because they're actually relevant.

[pluckyyounggirl.livejournal.com]

Yeah, me too. I mean, I love continuity and references, but sometimes it's a bit much, and I'd just love it so much if they were actually there for a storytelling reason. That would be so brilliant.

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

So, Rose saying, "Right, now we're in trouble," strike anyone else as very Doctor-ish?

Heck, didn't Nine say exactly that at some point? I can't remember which episode, but I distinctly hear his voice in my head saying that. ETA: He did say it! In "Rose," right after he catches her after she swung through and knocked the anti-plastic in. Awesome. *bounces*

As for the rest... ROSE IS COMING BACK! ROSE IS COMING BACK, THE DOCTOR KNOWS AND WHEEEEEEE!!!!

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Squee!

And yes! So, another S1 reference there, then. Very exciting.

[principia-coh.livejournal.com]

If you're interested in my opine on the partly-shrouded Dalek, see my post. I won't repeat it here because people might consider it spoilery even though it's only spec.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Hmm. Interesting. Could very well be the case. RTD does like his Old School villains.

[larissa-j.livejournal.com]

After seeing this trailer, I've got another question -- what did Gwyneth see?

Ahhh but wasn't Gwyneth more scared by the big bad wolf? AND the big bad wolf mention came after the darkness.

So, I'm a little worried and a lot excited.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I'm hoping that it means we'll get more Bad Wolf action in the S4 finale. That would kick ass.

[mrv3000.livejournal.com]

Oooh, Gwyneth! I knew that "the darkness" was ringing some kind of bells, and not just from Torchwood!

YAY ROSE!!

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Three cheers for Rose!

[china-white.livejournal.com]

It's a relief that the Doctor appears to be pleased that Rose is back...one concern was that her return might be so bogged down in angst that the story might suffer, but this doesn't look set to be the case, thank God. Looks like they are going to just tell the rest of her story, and hopefully give her a more satisfying closure than sobbing on a Norway beach. Because that was a sucky ending for her and is probably why so many people went a bit batshit for a while after Doomsday. To see Rose in the trailer, so determined and carrying that kick-ass gun...she has grown in her abscence, and that is what I wanted to see. I'm not doubting there won't be some kind of angst but it does look like her return might just resolve the issues that so many had with her character.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

I am definitely hoping that we'll get some quality character stuff for Rose. It looks like she's been through a lot of the same emotions that we saw the Doctor go through after losing her so it's easier to interpolate the middle for her.

Mostly, I'm just bubbling over with joy from knowing that we'll see more of her. I've missed her so much.

[china-white.livejournal.com]

I didn't realise I'd missed her as much as I have until that first cinema trailer. I've been excited for her return since then. My mum, who is only a casual Doctor Who viewer compared to me, saw a bit of the mid-season trailer yesterday and even she got excited over Rose. Like it or not, the character has a masssive fanbase or at least recoginition, and I don't think her comeback is fan-pandering but a way to fix the mistakes made with her exit scenes. If the trailer is anything to go by, with Rose being so strong and fighting, I think that someone, somewhere realised they screwed up big time by having Rose's "last" scene of her crying on a beach and this is them trying to set things right.

I was skepcial about Rose's return to begin with but I think it's desperately needed now because she really didn't get the closure she deserved the first time and I can see why so many fans got so vocal and upset. I really do hope her comeback will offer a better sense of closure than Doomsday did.

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Well, I think that the lack of closure was very intentional because they were planning on bringing her back. Having the Doctor not actually get the chance to finish his last words to her and then pretty much the entirety of S3 was showing us the Doctor's grief in losing her and the unfinished goodbye point to that for me. I'm glad that Rose is coming back on a storytelling level as well as a personal level because it just makes more sense.

[crossoverman.livejournal.com]

Also, was the top half of one of those Daleks in the trailer enveloped in darkness? Interesting.

Yes, that was very striking. Looks like the return of someone else...

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

RTD is fond of his Old School villains, so I would not be surprised.

[honorh.livejournal.com]

Weren't the Toclafane scared of "the darkness," too? In their case, it seems to have been the end of the universe itself. Hmm!

Rose herself seems darker. Does anyone else get the feeling she's become a soldier, thanks to whatever's happening?

[blackcat-1.livejournal.com]

Weren't the Toclafane scared of "the darkness," too?

Aww! I had nearly finished reading all these posts and was just about to post this myself, when I came across yours; you beat me to it!
I'm totally excited because the strands of all four series' are coming together, just as I hoped they would. It had better not be an anticlimax...

Rose herself seems darker.

Yes, she does. Personally, that is how I felt she would have become, following her separation for the Doctor, just as he did.

Does anyone else get the feeling she's become a soldier

Hmm...like Jenny...

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Ooo. They were. Hmm.

Rose definitely seems a little colder than she used to be... but so is the Doctor, so that makes sense.

[blackcat-1.livejournal.com]

I love the way the Doctor says, "Yeah," when Donna says that Rose coming back is good

So do I!

So, Rose saying, "Right, now we're in trouble," strike anyone else as very Doctor-ish?

Very much so. Looks like Jackie's prophecy in AoG is starting to be realised...

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Yes. I wonder if Jackie has figured out by now that Rose was going to grow and change even if she isn't still traveling with the Doctor...

Of course, now that Jackie has made a big change of her own, she probably has a different perspective on things.

[millylicious.livejournal.com]

So, Rose saying, "Right, now we're in trouble," strike anyone else as very Doctor-ish?

Nine said it in 'Rose', didn't he?

[butterfly.livejournal.com]

Ah-ha! Yes! Very intriguing.