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"I wasn't ready to give up on you."

So, Suzie and Owen each shot Jack and then died and were resurrected. And each of their resurrections came with a price. The first time, Suzie is the one who arranged for her own resurrection and the price was Gwen's life (and Jack refused to let that happen). In this case, Jack brought Owen back and the price tag ended up being twelve people's lives.

I love Jack's vibe with Owen -- like with Tosh, it's a relationship that doesn't feel sexual, instead, it feels fraternal. Jack's the big brother to Owen and Tosh as younger sibs. He sees that Tosh is special and encourages her to shine; he sees that Owen can be saved and wants to do that (while still wanting to smack him upside the head sometimes -- what he did with Owen in the prison/holding cell was so incredibly big-brotherly). I love that Jack so clearly loves all the members of his team, but in very distinct ways -- he doesn't love Owen the same way he loves Gwen and he doesn't love Ianto the same way he loves Tosh; but he does love them all (and the way he feels about the Doctor and Rose is a completely different story, but still one about love).

Sadly for her character, I'm not sure that Martha did... anything at all in this episode apart from have the life sucked out of her and fail to get the chance to do an autopsy. On the plus side, that meant that the focus was firmly on Owen, who is a regular on the show and who did just get shot to death, so I can't be all that upset. Also, "Reset" was pretty Martha-focused, so I don't feel like they brought her on for no good reason (and we don't know what she may be doing in the next episode).

Random speculation: little girl that Jack meets with in the beginning is, in fact, the Faith mentioned in the story about death. Which means that Jack may have just made Owen immortal. The Doctor would totally verbally smack him for that. I'm amused that Owen's resurrection is like what happens if you die after you become immortal in Death Becomes Her -- bits are fragile and blood doesn't circulate. Healing is for the living.

Fantastic episode -- great acting from Burn and the others. Another stellar episode for S2.

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Date: 2008-02-23 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com
Random speculation: little girl that Jack meets with in the beginning is, in fact, the Faith mentioned in the story about death.
That would be awesome.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:27 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
It really would.

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Date: 2008-02-23 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odditycollector.livejournal.com
Random speculation: little girl that Jack meets with in the beginning is, in fact, the Faith mentioned in the story about death.
I've heard this around, and I really hope it's not the case. It just seems too... tidy.

OTOH, it'd mean Jack gave Owen psychic powers, also, and wouldn't *that* end well.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:27 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
Owen with psychic powers is a horribly wonderful idea. Hee.

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Date: 2008-02-23 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fodian.livejournal.com
I love that Jack so clearly loves all the members of his team, but in very distinct ways -- he doesn't love Owen the same way he loves Gwen and he doesn't love Ianto the same way he loves Tosh; but he does love them all (and the way he feels about the Doctor and Rose is a completely different story, but still one about love).

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Now, could you please explain this concept to the rest of the fandom? You'll have to use smaller words.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
Ha. TW fandom is far too crazy to listen to explanations. I will remain in my flist bubble of 'in-character Jack characterization'. I like the people here.

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Date: 2008-02-23 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com
I'm so glad you're in this fandom.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
I'm so glad you've joined us. It's wonderful to have more sane people in TW fandom.

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Date: 2008-02-23 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freeze883.livejournal.com
I've got to say I just love your view of Jack (and Rose and the Doctor)

As for Martha, it did make sense as she has done her job in "Reset" but not simply ditched them after what happened to Owen

Plus I loved the little Unit vs. Torchwood bit about sharing info between Jack and Martha

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:31 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
I've got to say I just love your view of Jack (and Rose and the Doctor)

Thanks! I really love the relationship dynamics between them all (and between Jack and his team). I don't know why more people don't see the absolute coolness of Jack's PoV.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitkatbyte.livejournal.com
Death Becomes Her

I hope they spray-paint Owen next episode. Heee.

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Date: 2008-02-27 01:36 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
I hope they spray-paint Owen next episode. Heee.

That would go so horribly wrong.

Tosh: "I think your lips are finally the right colour."
Owen: "Forget my mouth -- did Ianto just paint a bullseye on my arse?"
Gwen: "That's just silly."
*a moment passes as she peers around*
Gwen: "Oh, yes. He has. But it looks quite fetching!"
Jack: "You really should have just let me do you."
Owen: *scoffs* "You'd have never gotten higher than my bits!"
Ianto: "As if anyone has any interest in those."
Owen: "Says the man who drew a target on my bum."

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Date: 2008-02-27 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitkatbyte.livejournal.com
HAHA! And the funniest thing is, that is actually fairly accurately in character. :) TW :X

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Date: 2008-03-04 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millylicious.livejournal.com
I wanted to leave feedback on your latest vid, but it looks like you turned off comments?

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Date: 2008-03-04 06:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com
Oh, that explains why there haven't been any comments. I'm going to go repost that real quick.

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