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Keeping in mind that this is based off of one viewing (though I'm seeing it again tomorrow), I have some thoughts on how the alternate timeline shakes out.

A) In our original universe, everything happens just as it should. Until 129 years (citation: Spock, in the ice cave) after Kirk graduates from the academy. At that time, the star Romulus circles goes supernova and while Spock goes to help, he's too late. He tries a desperate measure that both fails and sends himself and Nero's ship into a past alternate universe.

B) Nero seeks revenge on Spock but is too early. Out of spite, he destroys the USS Kelvin, killing Kirk's father. Instead of growing up the nerdy golden boy of Star Fleet, Kirk grows up self-destructive, always clinging to the edge of the cliff and spitting danger in the face.

C) Spock and the rest of the future Enterprise crew are going about their merry way, exactly as they had in the original universe.

D) Kirk meets Uhura (too early) and gets involved with Star Fleet, meets Bones (possibly later than normal, since his friendship seemed of long duration in the original series). He's a destructive and volatile force, but he's got all the brilliance, determination, and sheer leadership skills that Kirk is meant to have (those are innate). He's probably a lot more disrespectful in this version of beating the Maru than he was originally, thus earning Spock's frustration instead of his respect.

E) Spock comes out of the wormhole and gets captured by Nero, who plants him on a planet near Vulcan so that he can watch it be destroyed. Vulcan is placed under attack and Star Fleet finds out and mobilizes.

F) Uhura pulls skills rank on Spock in the crisis, possibly landing on the Enterprise earlier than normal. Kirk has to fight his way toward command, because he's not supposed to be there yet (he's not a captain yet) -- Captain Pike is assembling his crew that does not yet contain Scotty.

G) Vulcan is destroyed (along with several ships). Amanda dies. T'Pring probably also dies. Uhura makes a move on Spock. Pike goes over to Nero's vessel. Spock drops off Kirk on the ice planet on his way to meet with the crew.

H) Spock (Prime) saves Kirk, mindmelds with him, and tells him that the only way to solve the crisis is through Kirk's leadership. The love is palpable. There are probably other ways to try to save Earth, but Spock (Prime) trusts Kirk's guidance and is clearly not going to let Kirk's current (antagonistic) relationship with Spock stand. He also tells Kirk not to tell Spock and that if he gets Spock to emotionally compromise himself, then Kirk can take charge of the ship. Additionally, he shows no desire to go back to his own universe... and why would he? There's a Kirk alive in this one, whereas in his own, Kirk has been dead for years.

I) Kirk (along with Scotty, whom Spock helpfully hands the formula that he probably discovered in a couple of years, thus taking him to the Enterprise) goes back to the ship and takes command.

J) Spock and Kirk beam over to defeat Nero and do so, in an awesome way.

K) Because of how unbelievably awesome Kirk was during the whole crisis, he gets the Enterprise early and he almost certainly locks in this particular crew because of how totally awesome they were -- he can see that they're the best and he's not letting them go.

L) However, Spock feels that maybe he should go off with his (much less populous) people, so Spock (Prime) goes to him specifically to tell him that he needs to be with Kirk, because clearly Spock (Prime) is not willing to live in a universe where Kirk and Spock aren't the bestest, closest, most-in-love friends ever.

The End (and possibly Spock and Uhura get together and have scary smart three-quarters human, one-quarter-Vulcan babies).

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Date: 2009-05-09 02:23 pm (UTC)
gblvr: crop of Sylar's jawline (Heroes -- Sylar)
From: [personal profile] gblvr
Uhura pulls skills rank on Spock in the crisis and Uhura makes a move on Spock.

See -- I took what happened in these two instances to mean that she was *already involved* with Spock. His answer to why she was assigned to the Farragut was that he wanted to avoid the appearance of favoritism, and when she hugged and kissed him in the turbolift, he relaxed into it, and kissed her back. Even with what had just happened, I don't think he would have allowed that if it hadn't already been ongoing....

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Date: 2009-05-12 05:21 am (UTC)
gblvr: crop of 'The Morning Star' by Alphonse Mucha; woman in flowing gown with hand to forehead in greens and golds (Default)
From: [personal profile] gblvr
I'm pretty sure JJ doesn't care if it's unethical or not.... ;-)

But -- if you subscribe to the theory that the turbolift was the first time they kiss, that means Uhura is taking advantage of someone when they're weak, and that's just...kind of icky, you know? More icky than teacher/student between two consenting adults....

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Date: 2009-05-12 05:28 am (UTC)
gblvr: crop of 'The Morning Star' by Alphonse Mucha; woman in flowing gown with hand to forehead in greens and golds (Default)
From: [personal profile] gblvr
Hmmm. My problem with what happened being comfort (rather than taking advantage, assuming they're not in a relationship) is that Spock doesn't strike me as very touchy-feely -- he didn't even want his own mother touching him -- and it seems way out of line to comfort someone you're not involved with the way that she did....
Edited Date: 2009-05-12 05:29 am (UTC)

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Date: 2009-05-12 05:43 am (UTC)
gblvr: crop of 'The Morning Star' by Alphonse Mucha; woman in flowing gown with hand to forehead in greens and golds (Default)
From: [personal profile] gblvr
True -- I think it works better for me the other way, which in turn makes all the times she's rebuffed Kirk all that much funnier. LOL.

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Date: 2009-05-09 03:32 pm (UTC)
twistedchick: watercolor painting of coffee cup on wood table (Default)
From: [personal profile] twistedchick
G) Vulcan is destroyed (along with several ships). Amanda dies. T'Pring probably also dies. Uhura makes a move on Spock....

Thus either getting rid of the Amok Time episode in Original Timeline or else resetting it so that it happens aboard ship with Uhura and Kirk there, instead of on Vulcan. Depending on how they play this in future movies, it could be very interesting.

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Date: 2009-05-09 06:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] olivermoss
Speaking of Uhura, who was a mildly glorified operator in the original, she never would have done any translating in TOS. It hit me last night, universal translators at teh base of thier skulls. So, right now Spock has one, but other than that they might not exist.

So, yeah, Uhura went from having a job analagous to a very 'low class, low skills job' to a highly skilled scholar who is critical.

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Date: 2009-05-16 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] alessiana
Yes, I love love love it. I also agree with you about her kiss in the turbo lift coming from comfort. He was too stiff, even in his distress, for this to be anything but the first time in my opinion. I've watched it carefully 3 times now.

GAWD

I want to see it again

::bangs head::
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