Yes. Katherine will run out on the people she cares about in order to save her own life. Damon will not. That's probably the biggest difference between the two of them. Katherine has been on the run for hundreds of years; that's a hard habit to change (as Rose also showed us).
Yes, at this point, Katherine doesn't know how NOT to run.
Indeed. Now, Damon has to be the 'good brother' and yet still be the person getting things done. He can't win, in that way, really, because he's always going to be Stefan's big brother.
Sadly, yes, he cannot be the perfect brother, in part because he is who he is, and also because he IS the one who steps up.
Fraser would have ended up so broken (and scary) if he'd actually managed to run off with Victoria at the end of VS. He was so vulnerable in his interactions with her.
Fraser was bare in front of Victoria, and the twisted thing is that she really did love him, but it was so twisted up in all these other things that she would have had to break him down and rebuild him for it to truly work.
Exactly. People can choose to be what they choose to be, but they still have to operate from a center that they have not chosen - Damon, Stefan, Caroline... they are vampires now, not humans. They can be 'good' vampires but they can never again be good humans. And that's where Stefan tripped up. Instead of trying to learn how to be a good vampire (like Lexi apparently was), he instead tried to stuff it all back instead and do his best to be a good human again. Doomed to failure. He was like a bird that was tying his wings to his back in an attempt to be a squirrel - he made it so that he couldn't fly like a bird but he still couldn't climb like a squirrel.
Yes, Stefan doesn't understand, somehow, that vampire=permanent, and he has to learn how to live within those bounds.
Damon has always had to find his own way of bending or breaking rules and rewriting his role, so he is adaptable, Stefan has been the one that people accept, and it's made him very lazy because all he has to do is show the right face, and they let him get away with anything.
Oh, yes. It's fascinating. Katherine doesn't form permanent bonds that she's actually willing to risk anything for, so she compels. She became a vampire out of desperation. Klaus doesn't seem to enjoy compelling people to choose his way - he wants them to pick - but he will do it if he feels like his hand has been forced (or he'll stab them). Klaus was born to be a werewolf at least, and possibly always to be a hybrid (I don't know if the Original vampires worked the same way as our regular vampires; the brothers/sisters aspect implies genetics being involved). Damon, who chose to embrace the vampire lifestyle, is big on wanting things to be real when they really matter to him.
Klaus is much more werewolf than he is vampire.
Damon is, as we have seen, very good at being a vampire, and is picky about how he uses compulsion, it's not just so he can HAVE something, it's for other reasons. And, when he wants to have a person to interact with, he wants honesty, even if it's 'do not be scared, because I want to talk, okay?' He values the truth more than most people would believe, even if he makes people bleed with it.
Yes, seeing the way Elena's morality has been shading darker and darker is one of the (many) fascinating aspects of the show.
She is much darker than she used to be, and it's been a slow but steady journey.
Yes. Damon is clever and does not give up. He will do whatever it takes.
I just loved the way he would have walked right over Klaus if he had to – and only when Klaus presented himself as an obstacle did he fire back.
They have a little more time now before the next crisis inevitably hits!
Just a bit of time to recharge!
The slow build is just so fantastic there.
And it's deliberate, and some of it's happenstance, but this last declaration was very much Elena realizing yes, she has a partner, and him saying 'okay then, if we're in this, then I will BE your partner.' All without asking for one single thing for himself. Flails
If she'd taken him with her, that long-ago night, Klaus would probably be dead by now.
Oh man. Damon would have found out all he could about Klaus, etc, and then FIGURED SHIT OUT. Katherine, you run so fast you run into walls that you've built yourself. I mean, goldmine, as you said. He was so primed to be trained and honed, and instead she let him go and he did the work himself and now she can't claim him.
Very wonderful. Damon's family-building is another of those awesome little things.
Uh huh. And although Stefan is more LIKEABLE at times, and plays at the social niceties, people are certainly appreciative that although Damon can be a bit, oh BLUNT, he does what he says. And follows through. Always.
She was pretty miffed, yeah.
Understandably, I'd want to break his neck all day too. And the biting Elena thing was just an emotional reaction, that was so perfect.
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Re: part 2
Date: 2011-10-15 08:12 am (UTC)Yes, at this point, Katherine doesn't know how NOT to run.
Indeed. Now, Damon has to be the 'good brother' and yet still be the person getting things done. He can't win, in that way, really, because he's always going to be Stefan's big brother.
Sadly, yes, he cannot be the perfect brother, in part because he is who he is, and also because he IS the one who steps up.
Fraser would have ended up so broken (and scary) if he'd actually managed to run off with Victoria at the end of VS. He was so vulnerable in his interactions with her.
Fraser was bare in front of Victoria, and the twisted thing is that she really did love him, but it was so twisted up in all these other things that she would have had to break him down and rebuild him for it to truly work.
Exactly. People can choose to be what they choose to be, but they still have to operate from a center that they have not chosen - Damon, Stefan, Caroline... they are vampires now, not humans. They can be 'good' vampires but they can never again be good humans. And that's where Stefan tripped up. Instead of trying to learn how to be a good vampire (like Lexi apparently was), he instead tried to stuff it all back instead and do his best to be a good human again. Doomed to failure. He was like a bird that was tying his wings to his back in an attempt to be a squirrel - he made it so that he couldn't fly like a bird but he still couldn't climb like a squirrel.
Yes, Stefan doesn't understand, somehow, that vampire=permanent, and he has to learn how to live within those bounds.
Damon has always had to find his own way of bending or breaking rules and rewriting his role, so he is adaptable, Stefan has been the one that people accept, and it's made him very lazy because all he has to do is show the right face, and they let him get away with anything.
Oh, yes. It's fascinating. Katherine doesn't form permanent bonds that she's actually willing to risk anything for, so she compels. She became a vampire out of desperation. Klaus doesn't seem to enjoy compelling people to choose his way - he wants them to pick - but he will do it if he feels like his hand has been forced (or he'll stab them). Klaus was born to be a werewolf at least, and possibly always to be a hybrid (I don't know if the Original vampires worked the same way as our regular vampires; the brothers/sisters aspect implies genetics being involved). Damon, who chose to embrace the vampire lifestyle, is big on wanting things to be real when they really matter to him.
Klaus is much more werewolf than he is vampire.
Damon is, as we have seen, very good at being a vampire, and is picky about how he uses compulsion, it's not just so he can HAVE something, it's for other reasons. And, when he wants to have a person to interact with, he wants honesty, even if it's 'do not be scared, because I want to talk, okay?' He values the truth more than most people would believe, even if he makes people bleed with it.
Yes, seeing the way Elena's morality has been shading darker and darker is one of the (many) fascinating aspects of the show.
She is much darker than she used to be, and it's been a slow but steady journey.
Yes. Damon is clever and does not give up. He will do whatever it takes.
I just loved the way he would have walked right over Klaus if he had to – and only when Klaus presented himself as an obstacle did he fire back.
They have a little more time now before the next crisis inevitably hits!
Just a bit of time to recharge!
The slow build is just so fantastic there.
And it's deliberate, and some of it's happenstance, but this last declaration was very much Elena realizing yes, she has a partner, and him saying 'okay then, if we're in this, then I will BE your partner.' All without asking for one single thing for himself. Flails
If she'd taken him with her, that long-ago night, Klaus would probably be dead by now.
Oh man. Damon would have found out all he could about Klaus, etc, and then FIGURED SHIT OUT. Katherine, you run so fast you run into walls that you've built yourself. I mean, goldmine, as you said. He was so primed to be trained and honed, and instead she let him go and he did the work himself and now she can't claim him.
Very wonderful. Damon's family-building is another of those awesome little things.
Uh huh. And although Stefan is more LIKEABLE at times, and plays at the social niceties, people are certainly appreciative that although Damon can be a bit, oh BLUNT, he does what he says. And follows through. Always.
She was pretty miffed, yeah.
Understandably, I'd want to break his neck all day too. And the biting Elena thing was just an emotional reaction, that was so perfect.