So much love for Will. It's like, he's learned how to be crafty when he needs to be, but it hasn't changed him.
Yes! He's pretty much the only one in the movie who didn't stab anyone in the back (though he did try to stab Jack in the front, but he does things like that sometimes). And, oh! What he does at the end, trying to be all noble and "We'll get Jack back," not just to save his friend but also, I think, he's pulling a Norrington and trying to let Elizabeth be with the person he thinks she loves.
Erm, not broken. So not broken. So telling her something she didn't want to here, and then she did the immoral piratey selfish thing, and got rid of her problem. And I am so horrified about how Will's going to react, if and when he finds out.
I agree. She was taking care of her problem, which wasn't quite the same as everyone else's problem (and to go outside what Elizabeth knows, the audience knows that the Kraken is easily sidetracked and is as willing to eat Jack's hat as Jack himself). But, yes, she loves Will, she was finding Jack annoyingly attractive, so to nab two birds with one stone, she got rid of both the danger to Will and to her romance.
And I'm with you on thinking that Will would not agree with her methods.
It's just... strange, and Jack is the Compass in this, I suspect. Whenever they find him, and whatever he chooses when he makes up his mind, that's going to be the direction for everything else?
I like that thought. I also find that I'm really interested in how he got to know Tia Dalma. She's how he got the compass and Davy Jones is how he got the Pearl (and, really, it explains so much to me to learn that Jack was possibly given the title 'captain' rather than truly earning it, because I don't honestly think that he's a very good captain -- Will and Elizabeth were more about motivating and giving orders to the crew, in both the first movie and in this one).
Norrington actually didn't surprise me? It's just.. here is a man who believes in The System, who is a steady and hard worker under the rules, as long as he feels they're legimete. He can't square with being a pirate, because his own self-identification is too Upstanding Citizen.
So, what do you when you're determined to excel within the acceptable moral standards - and they change on you? Change with them.
It does make sense, all of it. I'm just surprised that Disney went there under their own name. It's like... the first time I watched the movie and saw the bird peck out a guy's eye, I said to my friend, "Wow, Disney's gotten hardcore." Disney! People's eyes getting plucked out!
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Date: 2006-07-12 07:46 pm (UTC)Yes! He's pretty much the only one in the movie who didn't stab anyone in the back (though he did try to stab Jack in the front, but he does things like that sometimes). And, oh! What he does at the end, trying to be all noble and "We'll get Jack back," not just to save his friend but also, I think, he's pulling a Norrington and trying to let Elizabeth be with the person he thinks she loves.
Erm, not broken. So not broken. So telling her something she didn't want to here, and then she did the immoral piratey selfish thing, and got rid of her problem. And I am so horrified about how Will's going to react, if and when he finds out.
I agree. She was taking care of her problem, which wasn't quite the same as everyone else's problem (and to go outside what Elizabeth knows, the audience knows that the Kraken is easily sidetracked and is as willing to eat Jack's hat as Jack himself). But, yes, she loves Will, she was finding Jack annoyingly attractive, so to nab two birds with one stone, she got rid of both the danger to Will and to her romance.
And I'm with you on thinking that Will would not agree with her methods.
It's just... strange, and Jack is the Compass in this, I suspect. Whenever they find him, and whatever he chooses when he makes up his mind, that's going to be the direction for everything else?
I like that thought. I also find that I'm really interested in how he got to know Tia Dalma. She's how he got the compass and Davy Jones is how he got the Pearl (and, really, it explains so much to me to learn that Jack was possibly given the title 'captain' rather than truly earning it, because I don't honestly think that he's a very good captain -- Will and Elizabeth were more about motivating and giving orders to the crew, in both the first movie and in this one).
Norrington actually didn't surprise me? It's just.. here is a man who believes in The System, who is a steady and hard worker under the rules, as long as he feels they're legimete. He can't square with being a pirate, because his own self-identification is too Upstanding Citizen.
So, what do you when you're determined to excel within the acceptable moral standards - and they change on you? Change with them.
It does make sense, all of it. I'm just surprised that Disney went there under their own name. It's like... the first time I watched the movie and saw the bird peck out a guy's eye, I said to my friend, "Wow, Disney's gotten hardcore." Disney! People's eyes getting plucked out!