Oh, yes, it's totally not a healthy relationship at this point. Totally. I completely agree with you re: Spock's blindness toward his own motivations as well -- it takes both Bones and Uhura basically hitting him over the head for him to even realize that he's using his supposed logic as a shield for personal emotions. And then he completely fails on actually dealing with his emotions in a clear and helpful way, instead only acting while being strongly motivated by jealousy.
I suspect writing a healthy Spock-anyone relationship would take me a lot more words than I gave myself here (I'm sure there are lots of people who could do it in less time/space). I don't think that Spock/Uhura in the movie is particularly healthy either. And much less healthy from his end than hers.
Spock's beliefs and actions regarding relationships definitely don't reflect mine, just what I extrapolate from the character (in all the various canon guises that we've seen) and his culture. Psychologically-speaking, his whole 'don't change your partner' thing that I gave him is his verbal reaction to everything that happened with his mom and Vulcan. And his actions don't reflect that because it's what he wants to believe about himself rather than what's actually true (and I don't believe, in the first scene, that I show Jen as buying what he's selling, but that could be authorial intent blocking me from seeing how the scene is coming across to others. Always a danger.).
I completely believe that, in showing who a character is, actions trump words. Spock thinks that he's much more logical, less jealous, and less controlling than he actually is.
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Date: 2009-06-13 03:43 am (UTC)I suspect writing a healthy Spock-anyone relationship would take me a lot more words than I gave myself here (I'm sure there are lots of people who could do it in less time/space). I don't think that Spock/Uhura in the movie is particularly healthy either. And much less healthy from his end than hers.
Spock's beliefs and actions regarding relationships definitely don't reflect mine, just what I extrapolate from the character (in all the various canon guises that we've seen) and his culture. Psychologically-speaking, his whole 'don't change your partner' thing that I gave him is his verbal reaction to everything that happened with his mom and Vulcan. And his actions don't reflect that because it's what he wants to believe about himself rather than what's actually true (and I don't believe, in the first scene, that I show Jen as buying what he's selling, but that could be authorial intent blocking me from seeing how the scene is coming across to others. Always a danger.).
I completely believe that, in showing who a character is, actions trump words. Spock thinks that he's much more logical, less jealous, and less controlling than he actually is.