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butterfly ([personal profile] butterfly) wrote2008-05-16 06:03 pm

Television: Fall Lineup

The schedules for the 2008-09 television season have come out and I'm really amused by the fact that half of the shows I'll be watching are airing on FOX, the station that I said I would never watch again after what happened with Firefly.

Projected Fall Schedule

Monday: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Favorite new show of 2007-08 season! All of the main characters are amazing and I love their interactions and I'm so glad that they didn't kill Ellison, yay! I hope that S2 is as great as S1.); Boston Legal (for only 13 episodes, apparently -- it's their final season. I watch this show because I really adore Alan Shore and Shirley Schmidt, but I definitely have my issues with it.); Dollhouse (starting in mid-season in the T:TSCC spot) which is (if anyone doesn't know) the new Joss Whedon show starring Eliza Dushku where we will get to see if Joss still does all his good writing stuff well and if he's gotten better at the other stuff. And, apparently, FOX is making a deal to have half as many commericals during this show as has become the norm. It'll be like watching television from the early nineties!

Tuesday: House until mid-season, when it moves to Wednesday. I'm torn about House, because I really love Wilson and House's friendship, think that Amber is amazingly kick-ass, look forward to the Chase moments, have enjoyed Foreman and Cameron a lot this season, and have grown very fond of Kutner and Hedley, but I kinda want to kick House in the shins a lot of the time (especially for the way he treats Cuddy and how the writers have her allow him to walk all over her).

Wednesday: Bones! Until mid-season, when it moves to Friday and House takes over its spot. I really, really, really love this show. So much so that I have nothing to say about it, because I just sit and watch and enjoy and feel absolutely no need for anything outside what the show actually gives me. Angela and Jack are adorable! Angela and Bones are such cute BFFs. Bones and Booth are so snuggly and friendshippy. Sweets is too cute. Caroline and Cameron both kick amazing amounts of ass. Zach makes me want to ruffle his hair. There is no bad here. Also, David Boreanaz is so hot when he smiles. Best crime show ever.

Thursday: Smallville which, at this point, you would have to rip away from me over my own rotting corpse. I love this version of Lois Lane so much. She's become my absolute favorite Lois ever and I really love the close and deep friendship that's slowly developed between this version of Lois and Clark. SV's Lois for the win, yo. Then there's Supernatural, which is currently on my 'maybe' list. My roommate and another close friend of mine are still really squeeful and adoring over the show, so that's one reason why I'll probably give it a chance in S4. I just... I really want to send the writers a copy of The Sarah Connor Chronicles (containing notes such as, "strong women are a good thing and not actually the root of all evil," "Agent Ellison living is also a good thing, think about how this might apply to your own show," "having a male character strongly dislike or even hate a non-human character in a female body without coming across as disgustingly sexist can be done" and "teaching your son to be a soldier while making sure he always knows you love him is possible.").

Friday: Numb3rs, which is a show that I watch because it's enjoyable and I like the characters. It's never a show that I have deep thoughts about or want to analyze, but Amita and Charlie have managed to go from "OMG! Do!Not!Want!" to "Aw, they're so cute," and that gets them some kind of prize.

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[identity profile] danamaree.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I think the only shows I'll watch that you have listed is Dollhouse, because you know, Whedon, and The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Bones and House are shown in Australia and I do watch them whenever I'm bored and the television happens to be on, but they aren't must see television for me.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Dollhouse is definitely something I'm very interested in -- though I was never a big fan of Faith, I always liked Eliza's portrayal of her, so I'm looking forward to seeing her play a different role penned by Joss.

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I've been looking forward to Dollhouse for MONTHS. I really hoope that Eliza can pull it off. I really liked her as Faith (and have seen nothing else from her), but I think the role she'll play will be a lot harder. But I have some hope.

AND I MISS JOSS ON TV. /O/ Even though I don't know how to feel about him using Fox after Fox got Firefly killed.

but I kinda want to kick House in the shins a lot of the time (especially for the way he treats Cuddy and how the writers have her allow him to walk all over her).
I remember back when House was still choosing his next team and Cuddy's underwear was involved. I turned it off and am wary about turning it back on. I just am starting to hate House and I miss it when I felt like he really respected Cuddy.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
I have high hopes for Dollhouse. It sounds like it could really address some interesting issues. And I, too, miss Joss on TV.

I remember back when House was still choosing his next team and Cuddy's underwear was involved. I turned it off and am wary about turning it back on. I just am starting to hate House and I miss it when I felt like he really respected Cuddy.

Amber is kickass and wonderful, but House has been really annoying me. It definitely feels like he respects Cuddy less and also that she's demanding less respect from him. Both of which I find disappointing.

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
I was rewatching some season one and was struck so much about how much House and Cuddy did respect each other. There was a lot between them that mattered to both of them.

I just stopped seeing that in season four. And that was what actually drove me to finally turn off the TV.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. If Amber weren't on the show, I would have done the same thing. But I have developed a hopeless crush on her, so I'm doomed for as long as she's still there.
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[personal profile] thawrecka 2008-05-17 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
So many shows I actually want to see! I'll have to see if I can wheedle people into sending them to me.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
I hope you get a chance to watch them!

[identity profile] thegrungediva.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm booked Monday nights, so I'll have to watch T:SCC and Dollhouse the next day (and FF through commercials, yeah). Can't wait to see more Joss. Squee!

I missed SN last night, so DON"T TELL ME ... it's bad enough to know that it's coming back for another season so obviously they saved Dean. Yes, I will be watching that.

Numb3rs I'll watch when I'm not doing other stuff ... like reading journals....

Nothing else is enough to avoid other stuff over. Gotta catch up on BSG, SG1, SGA, etc. And the millions of other interests I have OTHER than television, lol.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
More Joss is always a good thing! I miss his writing.

[identity profile] sage-theory.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm right there with you on Numb3rs.

I kinda want to kick House in the shins a lot of the time (especially for the way he treats Cuddy and how the writers have her allow him to walk all over her).

Usually I have no problem with how he treats Cuddy, because, strangely, I don't interpret it as being *personal* in a lot of ways. I think it's just that he and Cuddy are always going to be at opposing interests. And as long as you have something House wants and you won't fork it over to him easily and you won't be persuaded through sexual bribery, you're going to get it in the face from him.

What I think is extraordinary is that not only can Cuddy take it, but she still manages to look after House.

I don't think he's walked all over her, I just don't think that the writers have emphasized that Cuddy *must* be doing her job pretty damn well. Because she's managed to keep her job, House's job, and the hospital running excellently. Which means that, at least most of the time, even when dealing with House, she must come out with what she intended to get.

Sometimes I secretly believe that Cuddy actually has pwned House (and did so a long time ago) and is just making sure that he doesn't know it by allowing him to believe that he's bending her over a chair.

but Amita and Charlie have managed to go from "OMG! Do!Not!Want!" to "Aw, they're so cute,"

Amen. At the beginning, I was deliberately putting on slash goggles just to avoid that 'ship, but after a while, like pool water that's just a biiiit too cold when you first get in, I got used to it.

They got a lot cuter in comparison to Don and Whatever Her Name Is That's The FBI Agent Chick. I was headdesking profusely over that one.

Still, it's a good show.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
With regards to House, I used to feel that same way about House and Cuddy but I just haven't been feeling the respect from him recently.

[identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
No Heroes? *pouts* Anyway, I agree completely with you on The Sarah Conner Chronicles, House, Bones, Smallville, Supernatural, and Numb3rs. Although I'm slightly less down on SPN than you are, I think. I'm definitely willing to give it another chance in S4. But damn if there hadn't better be some decent, recurring female characters that Dean will respect if he knows what's good for him. (I was quite enjoying Ruby beating him up and calling him a dick. This is not a good sign.)

As for Lois in Smallville? I agree 100%. I love her, and I love her with Clark. Even more so after "Arctic" and how she dealt with him after he saw the DVD from Lana.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Watching Heroes is dependent on whether or not the trailers for the new season impress me enough. I was so disappointed with what happened with Hiro and Adam, and Claire's character arc broken my heart in the bad ways.

And, yeah, SPN has a lot of ground to make up with me. The problem is that the way the issues developed on the show give me the distinct impression that Kripke doesn't want me (read: female demographic) watching the show at all.I feel like he's actively hostile, so I'm afraid that it's not going to even try to improve.

[identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com 2008-05-18 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot went wrong with Heroes in S2, but I just love my Petrellis so much that at this point there's no question that I'll be watching S3. And they have said that they recognized the problems and they're retooling the show, so hopefully they're recognizing the right problems. *crosses fingers*

The problem is that the way the issues developed on the show give me the distinct impression that Kripke doesn't want me (read: female demographic) watching the show at all.

Yeah, I just... does he not get that a good proportion of his audience is female? And that a lot of us are being turned off the show? Meh.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
I shall cross my fingers along with you!

Yeah, I just... does he not get that a good proportion of his audience is female? And that a lot of us are being turned off the show? Meh.

Apparently not. Some people have floated the notion that some of the misogyny may come from him being offended that women dared to like his 'manly' show.

[identity profile] fresne.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I kind of have the impression that Kripke pays a little too much attention to the more vocal end of fandom. Which unfortunately, is that when it was announced two new female characters were being added there were a great many (presumably) female viewers shouting a lot of "Oh, Noe! Ick gurls!" That's something that didn't so much decrease, as create a sort of schizophrenic quality to reading response posts in the blogosphere and going from, "Analysis of gender/race issues," to "Die, pejorative die!" posts. It's only recently that the first type seemed to reach numerical parity with the later.

Which isn't one way or the other with regards to the show itself, but there are times I think the vocal osmotic effect of fandom isn't always to a benefit of stories that are written in the t.v. hothouse.