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butterfly ([personal profile] butterfly) wrote2003-12-04 08:10 pm
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Lie to Me

That scene at the beginning is just so haunting. Dru and Angel and the layers of history and pain that were apparent even before we knew what had happened.

Angel giving Dru a chance to leave the town - hunt somewhere else so that Buffy won't end up killing her or she won't end up killing Buffy and dying from it. And then he tries to protect her by not mentioning her to Buffy. He was feeling the guilt strongly.

And we've learned so much since then - so much of what passed between them. And Dru calls him Angel. Spike calls him 'Angelus' in School Hard, but Dru knows better.

I love that the second another competitor comes on the scene, Xander is suddenly on Angel's side. "That's Angel. He's Buffy's beau. Her 'special' friend." in other words - she's taken, asshole. At this point, he's willing to accept Angel and Buffy as being together (I believe we see him acknowedging that acceptance in Halloween, when he's talking to Cordy at the end), but another guy throws him out of wack.

Oh, and I love Xander's word choice. Beau - 'A man who is the lover of a girl or young woman.' or 'A man who is much concerned with his dress and appearance'. Heh. So true.

Big difference between S2 Xander and S5 Xander - "You have too many thoughts." vs "Smart chicks are so hot." Boy was always attracted to strong women, but it took a while for him to find brains attractive too.

Oh, and some insight on Angel that might be interesting in light of seasons four and five - "Some lies are necessary... sometimes the truth is worse. You live long enough, you find that out."

It's interesting to hear Buffy say - "I love you, Angel. I don't know if I trust you." She hurts Angel in Sanctuary by telling him that she trusts Riley.

And from Seeing Red -
Spike: "Trust is for old marrieds, Buffy. Great love is wild and passionate and dangerous. It burns and consumes."
Buffy: "Until there's nothing left. That kind of love doesn't last."

Hmm. There's a lot of interesting talk about trust in the Buffy-verse. I'm thinking of doing the same thing with that that I did with forgiveness.

The ending of this episode still makes me tear up. It starts when Buffy looks at Giles and says, "Lie to me."

"It's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after."

And, of course, S2 is the year where the Big Bad started out as one of the good guys. Jenny gets killed. Spike and Dru get away at the end. And Buffy runs away after killing Angel (her mind, she's always killed Angel there, despite the whole thing where she didn't - she killed him in her heart).

Season One was the easy year. The good guys were loyal and always on the side of right, the bad guy never came out of vamp face, and Buffy comes back from the dead in minutes. And even then, it wasn't as simple as the lie. And it only gets more complicated as time goes on.

The list of beloved casualties is a long one. Sometimes, the bad guy doesn't seem bad. And sometimes, you can't defeat the villain, because everyone has a dark side. Everyone is capable of more than they could imagine.

And there are no happy endings. The best you can hope for is a happy beginning.

[identity profile] xanphibian.livejournal.com 2003-12-04 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*breaks down and sobs uncontrollably*

This is beautiful.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2003-12-04 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

*pets*

There, there.
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[personal profile] minim_calibre 2003-12-04 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
*cough*

You should be posting notice of these in [livejournal.com profile] mutant_allies for EVERYONE to see.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2003-12-04 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*obeys*

I'll try. Honest.
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[personal profile] minim_calibre 2003-12-04 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
*MWAH!*

Thank you.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2003-12-04 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Very welcome.

*Sigh* So true.

[identity profile] honorh.livejournal.com 2003-12-04 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
"Lie to Me" still remains one of my favorite episodes. It foreshadows so much of what happens on the series. And that last scene with Buffy and Giles? Killer.

Love your closing line, btw. I still hope for a happy ending, personally.
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Re: *Sigh* So true.

[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2003-12-04 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It is an amazing episode. And that guy never had as much depth on the entire Roswell as he had in this one episode of Buffy.

I've never liked happy endings, myself. Tragic endings are good, because it means that the pain has stopped. With happiness, I like feeling like the story isn't over yet.

[identity profile] theamyrlin.livejournal.com 2003-12-04 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I absolutely love it when Xander calls Angel "Dead Boy" -- so funny. Especially Angel's, "can you not call me that?" Great episode, not only for the seriousness and realistic confusion, but for the funny.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2003-12-05 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's a funny, sad episode. I love those.

[identity profile] thepouncer.livejournal.com 2003-12-05 07:10 am (UTC)(link)
Lie to Me ranks as one of my favorite Buffy episodes ever, for all the reasons you mention. The ending kills me every time.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2003-12-05 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a brilliant, brilliant episode.
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[personal profile] joatamon 2003-12-06 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
I be enjoying these recaps and analyses very much. Thank you
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2003-12-06 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That's really nice to know. Thank you.