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Movie: Stardust (also, Doctor Who digression)
The only Neil Gaiman that I've read is Good Omens, his collaboration with Terry Pratchett (and his lj feed, which I have friended -- he's quite engaging on that). Seeing this movie definitely made me want to check out his work with more than the vague desire that I've had before.
Very enjoyable movie! I liked the process of Tristan growing up, I found the world created by Gaiman to be intriguing and worth a stay in, the characters were all fairly interesting and complex, and the climax of the movie felt earned. I loved seeing Yvaine shine (especially since, as Tristan walked in to save her, I muttered, "she better be more than the damsel in distress here," and she was more, so I was pleased.
It wasn't a terribly surprising movie (the second that the Stormhold people mentioned that only a male blood heir could make the ruby come back, I put that together with the missing princess and Tristan's mom to come up with him being the King at the end... and it was fairly clear from pretty early on that Tristan and Yvaine were going to end up falling in love), but I really enjoyed the ride. The ghost brothers were really amusing, the witches were engaging, Captain Shakespeare was tons of fun. Good stuff.
Now, speaking of the love story... wow, Yvaine and Tristan really reminded me of the Doctor and Rose (specifically, in the beginning, she really reminded me of the Ninth Doctor -- she was so full of sarcasm). Just on the superficials, she's ancient and forever and he used to work in a shop, yearned for more, and got it (in both cases, you have the mortal choosing the 'fantastical' life over what they'd have on regular planet Earth -- though I actually like Rose starting out pure mortal a bit better than Tristan being half from Stormhold, but that's me).
And it kinda made me sad for the Doctor and Rose, being in an on-going series. In a movie (or single book), you can have the happy ending, because you're telling the entire story. But the way Doctor Who is set-up, it's a lot harder for him to ever get a happy 'ending' because the show (and thus the Doctor) must continue on. They can't just say 'and they lived eighty years together in happiness and then lit a candle and lived together forever in the stars' because they have a franchise to think about.
Very enjoyable movie! I liked the process of Tristan growing up, I found the world created by Gaiman to be intriguing and worth a stay in, the characters were all fairly interesting and complex, and the climax of the movie felt earned. I loved seeing Yvaine shine (especially since, as Tristan walked in to save her, I muttered, "she better be more than the damsel in distress here," and she was more, so I was pleased.
It wasn't a terribly surprising movie (the second that the Stormhold people mentioned that only a male blood heir could make the ruby come back, I put that together with the missing princess and Tristan's mom to come up with him being the King at the end... and it was fairly clear from pretty early on that Tristan and Yvaine were going to end up falling in love), but I really enjoyed the ride. The ghost brothers were really amusing, the witches were engaging, Captain Shakespeare was tons of fun. Good stuff.
Now, speaking of the love story... wow, Yvaine and Tristan really reminded me of the Doctor and Rose (specifically, in the beginning, she really reminded me of the Ninth Doctor -- she was so full of sarcasm). Just on the superficials, she's ancient and forever and he used to work in a shop, yearned for more, and got it (in both cases, you have the mortal choosing the 'fantastical' life over what they'd have on regular planet Earth -- though I actually like Rose starting out pure mortal a bit better than Tristan being half from Stormhold, but that's me).
And it kinda made me sad for the Doctor and Rose, being in an on-going series. In a movie (or single book), you can have the happy ending, because you're telling the entire story. But the way Doctor Who is set-up, it's a lot harder for him to ever get a happy 'ending' because the show (and thus the Doctor) must continue on. They can't just say 'and they lived eighty years together in happiness and then lit a candle and lived together forever in the stars' because they have a franchise to think about.
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There are some ways TPTB at Who could satisfy the fans' urge to see the Doctor reunited with his Rose - specifically Ten, at any rate - that I've gotten into in some other folks' journals (and I think on my own as well) so I'll refrain from boring you with the details here. I just think from a story perspective that they need to resolve the situation while David Tennant is still in the role, because the viewer wouldn't really get any resonance from seeing a future Doctor who has no established onscreen relationship with Rose either a) pine for her or b) be reunited with her. This is especially true for the children who make up a large segment of the viewership.
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Thank you! I kinda think that I really do, so I appreciate the lack of spoiling.
I just think from a story perspective that they need to resolve the situation while David Tennant is still in the role, because the viewer wouldn't really get any resonance from seeing a future Doctor who has no established onscreen relationship with Rose either a) pine for her or b) be reunited with her. This is especially true for the children who make up a large segment of the viewership.
Especially after hearing how very traumatized the children were about the Doctor losing Rose (in the Blink Confidential). And they haven't resolved it yet -- it still feels like a danging plotline. I definitely agree that that's something that they need to do with Tennant's Doctor, for the same reasons you mention.
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But you know, the Doctor & Rose could have a happy ending... if there were an Alt!Doctor in Pete's world...
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Because I am lazy and wish to read it also. Yes?
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Ah - that makes a lot of sense! And now that you mention it, I can see more similiarities between Yvain and the Doctor. As we see from comments like "street corner, 2 AM" and "the one adventure I can never have" - as well as the entire HN/FoB episodes - there is a part of the Doctor that yearns for a normal, domestic life and love (I've always thought that the "I don't do domestic" bit is half due to Time War attachment issues and not so much to objection on principle).
This is somewhat true of Yvain as well; she's quite happy to accept the domestic approach for a while - because as she says to Tristan while he's been transformed into a mouse, she spends all her time looking down on the ugliness of Earth, but the one thing that keeps her watching is the amazingness of how humans love. Love - and taking the chance on it - scares her, but that's something she wants, so the immortal star chooses to have that life. Sadly we haven't gotten to see the Doctor do this yet (and perhaps never will), but it would be brilliant if we could have a happy ending with him for once, and I think we still can, at the end of S4, before the reset button is hit with the Eleventh Doctor ;) And if there is a reunion, and the Doctor does get a second chance with Rose, there's very little chance that he'll hold back *g* Btw, I'm not saying he should settle down per se and go all domestic, just that I love these stories where an immortal chooses to embrace loving a mortal, damn the consequences, and that's what I'd like to see with D/R.
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