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butterfly ([personal profile] butterfly) wrote2002-05-07 10:08 pm

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I've been thinking of giving up the TWoP boards. The Xander hate and Spike apologies are just getting to be too much.

Hello, unrepentant murderer? Why think that he wouldn't 'stoop' to rape?

I'd rather be raped than murdered. You have a chance to recover from a rape.
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[identity profile] elina.livejournal.com 2002-05-07 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't ventured into the TWoP Angel/Buffy forums in ages. It got too painful for me to be in there, what with the Deep Bitterness and all.

I've been loving the Smallville forums, however. I think this is partially because it's too early in the series' run for people to be burned out yet. (Although after tonight's ep, there are a few people going "ho-hum", which I totally do not understand.)

<--SV newbie
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Stooping

[personal profile] jic 2002-05-07 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried calling you during the commercial in the middle of the bathroom scene. No answer, so I figured you were ignoring phones in favor of watching.

Gah! Noooooo!

Rape is an act of violence, not passion. I can totally see Spike committing rape (I mean, yeah, like you said, "Hello, unrepentant murderer?"). But on Buffy? I have issues with that. I mean, yeah. I see how Joss meant to build the scene, but, no. You don't do that to someone you actually love. And I'm a B/S shipper, so I'd like to believe he really loves her. But, that doesn't jive with what happened tonight. Shit like that is not about love. It's about anger, and domination, and possession, and humiliation, and denigration, and a bunch of other nasty -ations.

So, somewhere along the line, the love he felt (gotta stick to my illusions somehow) was destroyed, and replaced with something not. Something that was more about his pain than about wanting her to be happy.

I'm sad. I never liked how Buffy treated him once he was chipped. I guess I'm a sucker for unrepentant murderers.
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