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butterfly ([personal profile] butterfly) wrote2002-09-30 03:16 pm

Fanon thoughts.

So, [livejournal.com profile] liviapenn was saying smart things about fanon.

Which, naturally, led me to consider my own uses of fanon.

Xander's family was fanon way before it was canon. It was pretty much accepted that his family bit the big one. But other Buffy fanon ideas have, over the course of the show, been Jossed into oblivion. Spike being evil before he was turned was a huge fanon belief before Fool for Love aired.

To move into the specific subject that livia mentioned, there's tons of fanon that's contradicted by the show that people still use. Childe and Childer being a favorite of mine. Well, a favorite to make fun of. Even the Master didn't use those terms. Spike and Angel probably wouldn't ever, expecially when you consider the mocking of Anne Rice that they had going on in School Hard. Also, we know that vamps don't cry blood. We've seen weepy vamps. No blood tears here, mate.

The biggest mischaracterization in slash is the bitchifying of Buffy. You want Xander to move to L.A. to live with Spike, Angel, and Doyle, that's all fine and good, but you lose me completely when you imply that Buffy isn't affected at all by Xander leaving until he mention aforementioned foursome. Whether or not you share my deep conviction of Buffy's affection for Xander, the show does, in fact, show that she cares about him and would miss him if he left (The Freshman, Normal Again).

Making Buffy a bitch just makes the author look bad. And it's interesting that many slash fics with Xander do that, because in most fandoms, you only bitchify the canon girlfriend. So, it's to me, you're saying that Buffy is so important to Xander that he couldn't leave unless she became the bitchiest woman who ever lived.

And while we're talking about Buffy, let's talk about Willow-Sue, a character with no foundation in show canon. Willow is smart. Willow is even cool sometimes. Willow is not the Uberhero of All Time, able to fight harder than Buffy, be the most understanding person in the world and steal boyfriends in a single bound.
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Going to quote myself here...

[personal profile] minim_calibre 2002-09-30 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
(From a couple weeks ago, I'd just link to the post, but none of the rest of it made sense.)

My biggest Jossverse fanfiction pet peeve right now is poorly-done Buffy. First, we have the strangely frequent dumbification of Buffy. She's not an idiot. She's sloppy with language, hasn't time for books, but she's far from stupid. Also, she's often painted as humourless. She of the puns and quips. Humourless. Or her backbone is removed and she's weak-willed Buffy. Or her streak of kindness is ignored, and she's bitch Buffy. Buffy can be bitchy, but Buffy's not a bitch.

And it shows up not only in Xander slash, but in Willow stories, and Angel slash, and Spike slash... heck, I imagine it even shows up in Giles slash. And everytime I see it, my mind boggles.
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Re: Going to quote myself here...

[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2002-09-30 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It does. It's bizarre. I truly don't see where they get that Buffy.

gross generalization here....

[identity profile] crushw-eyeliner.livejournal.com 2002-10-01 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
but as that Gross Characterization of Buffy exists, here's a broad (very) generalization to go with the Anti-Buffy in fandom --

As much as it boggles and Pains Me, there are people who do not like Buffy (the character) at all. They hate her, in fact. And that personal bias translates into sloppily conducted vengeance fiction, where the 'author' takes to task everything Wrong and Bad with Buffy and vents their (often it's a young woman writer)disappointment with her. They use a 'sympathetic' character often to mete out justice or be the Good!Foil to Evil!Skanky!Bitchy!31Flavors, all of them Shallow!Buffy (it used to be Willow-sue, or cleverly named doppelgangers like Gabrielle Vanessa Raven Ruby Gloriana Dominica Adeline Smith)but I've seen lots of Tara, Tara-sue, Anya, Dawn, Xander, (yes, Even) Spike fics, where the heavy hand of favoritism comes smack down on our favorite Slayer's head, and pushes her into the ground.

Or you get the contrast fic - which is where Faith kicks out the Jams and proves she's the Better Slayer at being Misunderstood, Pouty, Dressed to Slay, and Buffy is just chopped liver.

Mostly, BuffyasaBitch comes to play when you're dealing with a predominantly shippy fic, and the author can't think of a decent plotline or a characterization for Buffy to get out of the way of their One True Ship (and it's not just down to slash authors, plenty of het fics are antiBuffy breeding grounds), so they stoop to using the Bitch card. The more 'merciful' of the Buffy's a Bitch-she better get away from my Spike and Xander or Spike and Tara or Willow and Angel - just kill Buffy off in some mystical mojo accident, and then either spend a line - saying "oh. she's dead."

Then they break out the wild monkey sex between the Other Two - and Buffy's not touched on again, unless it's in a bitter flashback realizing just how 'flawed' she was.


Sorry, was that bitter in my voice?

Hmm.

It apparently is.

sff-proud fandom misanthrope.
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Re: gross generalization here....

[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2002-10-01 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Again, I just don't get people. People are so confusing.