butterfly: (With Age -- Jack)
butterfly ([personal profile] butterfly) wrote2005-04-13 02:07 pm

Authority Figures -- Romance and Rank

So, why does the idea of canon Sam/Jack annoy the hell out of me, while I'm vastly interested in Lee Adama/Laura Roslin?

The reason lies in Lee's speech in Bastille Day, where he makes it clear that he follows the law over his commanding officer (and implicitly, over the President's wishes as well). When Lee follows an order, he's making an informed decision. When Sam follows an order, she's following an order. We've seen that Sam will follow orders that she disagrees with morally (Scorched Earth) while Lee will not (Kobol's Last Gleaming, part 2).

So, while Sam may be a better soldier than Lee, Lee seems like a stronger person. And I like good people a hell of a lot more than I like good soldiers.

Both of them have allowed their personal feelings for one person to overrule better judgment, but with Lee, we got to see him realise that he was wrong (That one, with Starbuck lost on the planet), whereas it seemed like Sam's only revelation was that losing Jack would completely suck, especially so soon after losing Daniel (Paradise Lost).

And, of course, one of the reasons that I love BSG is that there are several interesting (and very different) women, making the burden of 'representing sisterhood' weigh less heavily. Whereas on SG-1, Sam is pretty much it and even before Janet died, there were just two. On BSG, we have Starbuck, Six, Boomer, Roslin, Cally, and Duella.

[identity profile] simonesa.livejournal.com 2005-04-13 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to agree with the comment above about Lee/Laura and Squick. At first I thought you meant the elder Adama and I was oddly OK with that. Could even go there, but when I realized you meant Apollo an uncontrollable shudder went through me.

The thing with Sam/Jack is not only about my being a die hard slasher, it is that it really bugs me that we have this really intelligent, strong female character and naturally she has to fall for her commanding officer. Of course, it bugs me not at all that Daniel should fall for him. ;-)
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2005-04-13 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to agree with the comment above about Lee/Laura and Squick. At first I thought you meant the elder Adama and I was oddly OK with that. Could even go there, but when I realized you meant Apollo an uncontrollable shudder went through me.

We're squicked by what we're squicked by. I find them interesting and very much not a squick. And, of course, I really can't get behind Apollo/Starbuck because she was engaged to his brother, which squicks me.

The thing with Sam/Jack is not only about my being a die hard slasher, it is that it really bugs me that we have this really intelligent, strong female character and naturally she has to fall for her commanding officer. Of course, it bugs me not at all that Daniel should fall for him.

For me, there's such an enormous difference in how Sam and Daniel react to Jack. Even more than the difference between 'sir' and 'Jack' imply. There's also the fact that with Daniel, Jack doesn't mind liberties being taken -- compare Daniel sitting without waiting for Jack's permission in Lockdown to Jack's reaction to Teal'c doing the same in Icon. Jack isn't insulted when Daniel treats him like an equal instead of a superior officer.

[identity profile] simonesa.livejournal.com 2005-04-14 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I really can't get behind Apollo/Starbuck because she was engaged to his brother, which squicks me.

I can't either. I think the main reason that I have not been able to get passionate about BSG is that I do not find anyone there that peaks my interest. I have come to like the show. It is an interesting show. I just don't feel particularly strong about it. For instance, if it were cancelled, I would not really care one way or the other.

As for Jack/Daniel, just to share, I was watching the replay of Message in a Bottle that aired this afternoon on SciFi and there was a great moment. When they finally get to talk to this alien being that has Jack pinned to the wall in the gateroom, it talks through Jack that Jack wants to live while looking directly at Daniel. Hmmm.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2005-04-16 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like the Cylons, so far. But yeah, I wouldn't cry if the show got cancelled.

Oh! That is a nice little moment. Cool.

[identity profile] lasultrix.livejournal.com 2005-04-13 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Amanda Tapping's repeatedly sad that she feels the same way.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2005-04-13 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Smart woman.

[identity profile] simonesa.livejournal.com 2005-04-14 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
I did not realize. Good on her. I realize all the need to develop romantic relationships in the name of drama, but I just wish they had left Sam alone.