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Fandom is wacky: Smallville edition

So, I've been reading the TWoP boards for Smallville (which is kinda crazy, but I started going back over there for... Battlestar Galactica and the Supernatural boards are good (though the first season recaps of the show suck -- second season is looking up, because they're being written by the guy who wrote the recap for the pilot and not the Supernatural-hating hack that recapped the rest of the season... dude, at least try to be amusing when you hate)) and ran across this theory called 'Chlois'.

Which baffles me. Did this theory exist back in season three (which is the last time that I visited the Smallville boards)? I don't remember it, though the Chloe-worship is... familiar.

Apparently, there is a group of people who think that Chloe is going to change her name to Lois, dye her hair, change her personality, pretend not to know Clark, and then become the love of Clark's life (because he's not going to notice that Lois has gotten a lot shorter... because he's a "Big Dumb Alien" who isn't worthy of her Radiant Goddess Glow and... why do they want her with him again?).

Or I guess they think that Chloe is already like Lois Lane which... baffles me more. Chloe is soppy. Lois Lane is not soppy. Lois Lane is the opposite of soppy. I mean... I don't have anything against Chloe, I've always mostly liked her (she was my favorite female on the show in seasons 1-3, before Lois showed up and stole my heart (as she does)), but how is she anything like Lois Lane? Chloe is an underdog. She has, like, eighty-gazillion fans (note: number may or may not be exaggerated) because she's an underdog.

Lois Lane isn't an underdog.

I can't ever imagine Chloe staring down her boss and saying that she didn't write a mood piece because she "wasn't in the mood" (I can imagine SV's Lois saying that, though -- only the news that she's interested in, thank you). Lois is confrontational, pushy, and (gasp!) kinda bitchy. She steamrolls over people when she's figuring out what to do and then is annoyed at them for not being fast enough to move out of the way.

Not everyone likes Lois Lane. That's always been true. It amuses me how many people on the "Chlois" thread bash Lois and Clark's Lois, who strikes me as a classic Lois in the tradition of the better comics and the first two movies. Dude, y'all don't even like Lois. Why do you want your favorite character to turn into her? Is the love of Clark that wonderful and amazing?

I love Smallville's Lois Lane. Like the other classic comic characters (Clark and Lex), they took the basic character profile and twisted it so that Lois was actively fighting against her future.

But all three of them have the essence of what will one day make them their Iconic character (It took me forever to figure out that ILL stood for "Iconic Lois Lane", btw.). Lex has the will to power, Clark has that need to help, and Lois has the guts to stand up to both of them. All three of them are coming by those essences differently than the various other versions of themselves, but that's all right. That's comics. There are many worlds, many versions. They don't cancel each other out, nor do they necessarily lead into each other.

The comics are not the movies are not Lois and Clark is not Smallville. There's pre-Crisis and post-Crisis. Silver and Gold Age. Superman Returns and The Adventures of Superman. All different, but all with a few things in common. Superman. Clark Kent. Lois Lane. A little later, Lex Luthor.

Clark and Lois, though, first and always.

Also, I seem to feel the same protectiveness towards Lois that I feel towards Buffy and Rose. That is, I feel that they're strong female characters that I would feel honored to be anything like, so I have a shockingly limited amount of patience for dismissiveness towards them. Not criticism in general, just that particular brand of condescending criticism where I'm told that what I see as strength is really the cold-hearted, smug bitchiness of women who are getting 'above their places' (Want to make my blood boil in ten seconds or less? Mention that someone, particularly a female someone, needs to be 'put in her place'.). When Rose is dismissed as a stupid shopgirl or Buffy is called a heartless bitch or people call SV's Lois various hideously sexist terms and make everything all about her body (And her *omg* huge breasts, which just comes across as hypocritical when they're cooing over "Chloevage" every other post. I guess breasts are only okay if they're Chloe's.), I feel true feminist rage.

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And it just grates me because it enforces the view that women who are comfortable with their sexuality are uppity.

Yes, that's it, exactly. Lois is comfortable with her body and herself and this is apparently a bad thing. Drives me crazy.

Partly I think that it would be awesome if SV ended with Clark, Lex, and Lois having all grown together, and having followed their journeys all along. Clark/Chloe have become quite a team working together. And Chloe/Lex always bitch at one another, but still when she's in the hospital, he's genuinally concerned that she's not done being a pain in his ass. I suppose I like the idea of Clark, Lex, and Lois having interacted a lot during their early years, which is partly what SV is about for me

I wasn't Lois' biggest fan after the episode Pariah, I have to admit I find her a bit much. The only other Lois I have seen is Terri Hatcher's, and I really liked hers. SV's Lois just seems so rude and obnoxious to me. I did like her a lot in Crusade-Devoted, but eventually it became like nails on a chalkboard, and in early season 5 I become a Chloiser.

Thirst is where Chloe gets her first position in The Daily Planet, and that was what made me decide she was my Lois I suppose. She was just so happy at the end to be achieving her dreams. It seems so sad for her cousin to end up with the man Chloe loves, as well as the job of Chloe's dreams

Let me assure you then, it is not a war show at all. It is a show about people working together under very stressful conditions. It is a show about how war affects people, but it isn't a show that's actually about war.

I thought that Chloe was spunky and really liked her in S1. She lost me during S2 with the while “pissy because he let me break up with him” attitude and lost me even more when she turned to Lionel — and yes, it was over watching Clark and Lana kiss.

S1 Chloe was a lot of fun. Bouncy and eager and not, you know, an insane protype of 'woman scorned' which made no sense, as she wasn't at all scorned. Chloe, baby, Clark can't read your mind. He's a teenage boy. Not being a pushy asshole, he's going to assume that you mean it when you say you aren't interested, especially if he's been at all worried about losing your friendship.

I was willing to try to forgive her but she lost me again when she tried to renege on her deal with Lionel while trying to keep her column at the Daily Planet and lost me even more when she didn’t own up to what she did with her, “It was a moment of weakness, you of all people should understand!” statement to Clark.

Chloe tries to have it both ways a lot of the time. She doesn't want to be the one pushing in the relationship with Clark, so she tries to make him chase her. She doesn't want to work for Lionel anymore, but she doesn't want to lose the perks she got because of him. And, yeah, with you on the 'not owning' thing.

And then there are the issues I have with her hint dropping because if the reveal really were about Clark’s needs, she’d let Clark reveal on his own instead of forcing his hand to fit her needs on her schedule.

Oh, god, yes. I just watched an episode where Clark was worried about leaving his parents alone on the farm and she was all, yeah, I can see where they'd miss your skills, all wink-wink, nudge-nudge, and Clark's poor, baffled, and scared reaction made me mad at her. Clark is very clearly not ready to talk about it, but Chloe can't help pushing.

And let’s not get into Exposed. The future Superman shouldn’t have to marry the woman who was so petty she betrayed his safety for a newspaper column she didn’t deserve.

I have only seen the Lois bits of Exposed so far (which I thought were spectacular), but now I'm curious about Chloe's role in the episode, which I just thought involved making Lois do all the hard work.

But Exposed just made me boil over with how very anti-Lois Lane she was. (BTW: If you don’t want your blood pressure to rise, don’t read the Exposed thread on TWoP. The feminist in me was fuming in anger with the comments on the episode posted.)

Yeah, I think I'll pass on that one. I loved the Lois bits I saw (Don't Cha Wish Your Girlfriend Was Hot Like Me, indeed -- plus not backing down to the cop or to the evil diplomat guy, her only needing Clark for the superhuman bits of the rescue instead of all of it, and her just... overall kickass-ness), and I can imagine some of what they would have said about all the stuff I enjoyed so much.

I like Chloe, but only when she’s not doing journalism things or pining over Clark. With Jimmy in the picture, that hopefully takes care of her crush on Clark. As for the journalism, I have so many many issues with that and Exposed and the Chloe Chronicles highlighted just what a bad journalist she is. But I guess I’ll just have to live with it if I’m gonna watch the show. :-x

Yeah, I've never gotten the impression that Chloe's all that good a journalist. She's passionate about it, but about just the kind of journalism that I'm not all that happy about. Chloe does the kind of journalism that most journalists today do, where it's all about sensationalism. Lois looks like she's going to be a journalist who focus more on social justice and on letting the people know the things that they deserve to know. The fourth estate, not junk journalism.

Because of Chloe, Lois is a refreshing change of what journalism should be. It should be people-focused placing emphasis on how events affect people. She went after Lionel because getting away with murder was wrong and she went after the plastic surgeon because letting girls suffer their self-esteem was wrong. Journalism should be people-focused not freak-show focused which is how I feel Chloe treats the meteor-rock phenomena.

Exactly! Chloe is all about finding the odd things and the weird things and pointing them out. Lois seems to want to point out the wrong and unjust things instead.

Also, I love Lois because she has a sense of ownership about her mistakes. She goes after Lucy because Lucy is her responsibility and when she babysat the girl in Fragile, she owned up to the girl’s disappearance saying no excuses, the girl was her responsibility.

A breath of fresh air after both Chloe and Lana, both of whom have problems owning up to their responsibilities.

And I love that Lois is loyal to her friends and family. She didn’t have to go after Chloe’s murderer. She didn’t have to work on Jonathan’s campaign for free. But she did so because wanted to help.

And that sense of ownership and her deep loyalty are both traits that are really good for the future Lois Lane to have -- she'll need them a lot more than she'll need a background in writing about meteor-rock freaks.

But I think what tips the Chloe vs. Lois to me is in how they deal with Lionel. All throughout S3, Chloe looked like a deer in headlights not knowing what hit her. Lois on the other hand, stared down Lionel and knew exactly what his weakness was and got him to act out on it. That to me is what Lois Lane is about — she knows how to get people to show their hands even as she’s going for the jugular. People shun Chloe just like that and Lionel regarded her an annoying fly and I don’t remember her ever getting information from a hostile source.

So true! Chloe can't hide her fear and go on the offense. Lois manages to bulldog her way into the Kents' home and into their lives, because she likes them and is determined to be around them so much that they end up liking her out of sheer self-defense. She gets reactions from people and she throws them off-balance. You can hate her, but you can't ignore her.

Anyways, my fave Lois Lanes are this one and the Justice League (cartoon) one which, I now realize, are the newest and latest incarnations of Lois Lane. I’ve heard good things about Phyllis Coats’ Lois so I’m curious about that. Otherwise, I’ve never been a fan of most Lois Lanes as most of them have been cartoony caricatures of what boys/men fear feminists are like. Though, I will give past Lois Lanes something of a break since women did need to be more bulldog-ish to overcome the sexism of the times.

I've seen it written that you can check the pulse of mainstream feminism by seeing what's being done with Lois Lane. She is possibly America's most visible icon of strong, female power -- a woman strong enough to match up with Superman. Even she'd written as a bitch or a caricature, it says a lot about the attitude of the time.

I find it really interesting to compare Smallville's Lois to Superman Returns's Lois. SR's Lois is simply... softer, all around. Wears a dress when her boss tells her to, wears high heels while sneaking around in an investigation. Washes dishes, which annoyed me a bit, as I refuse to believe that Lois Lane doesn't have a kick-ass power dishwasher. I find Smallville's Lois to be both a stronger character overall, and also a better role model.

I have AIM. I'm on there as 'buffyinmotion'.

I find it...understandable. Of course, I'm not American. But perception counts for a lot, I hear girls with Rose's accent, and they got a fag in their mouth, a pram in another, all of 17 and going onto 40. Foul mouthed, no hope.

Call them chavs, scalleys, bogans, westies, whatever. It just means no class, no education, no future.

And it's part of the reason I put a lot of effort to cultivate a different way of speaking. My accent wasn't doing me any favours.

Oh, you have no idea how much I'm loving your Lois love (and Buffy love and Rose love). I agree with pretty much everything you said about Chloe and Lois. First season of SV I pretty much sold my fan love to Chloe and I was pretty much rooting for a Chloe/Clark pairing since it seemed indicative that he had a type and well, it was highschool. You rarely end up with someone you went out with in highschool.

Then I realized Clark was all about Lana and then there were a lot of plot stupidities and it drove me out of the show. Then I heard Lois Lane was in S4 I couldn't help but watch because it was Lois!

From the first moment she appeared on screen Lois appeared on screen I fell in love with her character. She's brash, rude, driven and absolutely no reverence for Clark's 'mystique' which was a breath of fresh air considering everyone's attitude about Clark. And that's what I always loved about Lois, that she's a grounding force for him, that he can be a superhero but Lois reminds him that he's also Clark and he needs to cook dinner!

And, yes, I love that Lois owns her mistakes, that she's responsible and she doesn't shirk what she considers her duty. I loved that she doesn't back down from Lionel Luthor, I love that she constantly, constantly keeps Clark off balanced and forces him to react in a different way with her. He doesn't have the same baggage with her and Lois is not in anyway interested about his secrets.

And much as I love Chloe, I agree with you on Chloe's drive for journalism is more close to sensationalism --

huzzlewhat has also said something to that effect that while Chloe *is* passionate about journalism but

huzzlewhat notes that Chloe often investigates to support her own conclusions rather than letting the facts add up. Her post is here (http://huzzlewhat.livejournal.com/52422.html#cutid1) btw.

It's why I love Lois -- because even in Crusade, it felt like Lois is more passionate and focused (when she does get focused) on finding the truth. In trying to make the world better.

Then I went out and tried to find other fan's take on Lois and I was severely burned with the experience. The amount of hate and vile thrown her way was just -- and yes, I second skipping the Exposed recap in TWoP by the time I got to the second page I was ready to stab the recapper.

Lois is confrontational, pushy, and (gasp!) kinda bitchy. She steamrolls over people when she's figuring out what to do and then is annoyed at them for not being fast enough to move out of the way.

It annoys me that if any female character demonstrates any type of characteristic like that she's immediately hated on, and damn, the sexist comments on Lois is just sickening. Call me crazy but seeing a woman on TV who isn't a stick figure, who has curves is refreshing -- another one of the reasons why I loved Rose. Ugh. Fandom is crazy sometimes.

BTW, I rewatched Crusade last night and I just got a kick when Lois brought Amnesiac!Kal-el(Clark) to the hospital and she wanted to pass him off to the attending but the attending tells her that since she found Clark, she's responsible for him now. At first watch it meant nothing for me but last night it struck me as especially resonant that Lois was told that Clark is her responsibility.

It's like that old proverb about saving a person's life and being forever responsible for them.

Well, I was going to say that my problem with Lois' overall arc was that given her career arc of the last season, she seemed more in line with becoming Secretary of State, not Woman Friday, but hey, I forgot change is Smallville.

Mind you...well, most recent episode spoiler, spoiler, spoiler.

You seem to have come back during a good season. Let's hope they can keep it up.

*rotfl* OMG! You just found out about Chloisers! *rotfl*
Yuh. Um, yes, there are lots of those fans.

I feel that they're strong female characters that I would feel honored to be anything like, so I have a shockingly limited amount of patience for dismissiveness towards them. Not criticism in general, just that particular brand of condescending criticism where I'm told that what I see as strength is really the cold-hearted, smug bitchiness of women who are getting 'above their places' (Want to make my blood boil in ten seconds or less? Mention that someone, particularly a female someone, needs to be 'put in her place'.). When Rose is dismissed as a stupid shopgirl or Buffy is called a heartless bitch or people call SV's Lois various hideously sexist terms and make everything all about her body (And her *omg* huge breasts, which just comes across as hypocritical when they're cooing over "Chloevage" every other post. I guess breasts are only okay if they're Chloe's.), I feel true feminist rage.
*falls in love with you* Yes. So do I. Feminist rage. I can't go near a lot of the TWOP boards or into some parts of LJ because the sexist vitriol that is heaped on Lois and ED is so repulsive. You nailed it here--it's extremely hypocritical.

I also feel protectiveness to strong female characters like Lois and Buffy (and, for me, Starbuck and Roslin in BSG). I just don't understand why women want to buy into milksoppy versions of women rather than the few strong (and complex) women that are finally being offered to us in the media.

People = weird

It just means no class, no education, no future.

God, sorry, but I find that so depressing. Very My Fair Lady, which is appropriate, I suppose. But doesn't it bother them that the Tenth Doctor has more of a Rose-type accent now?

Honestly, I like Rose's accent. It sounds... casual and light and like it suits her. But I don't have any bad things associated with it. Just Rose.

That is reassuring. Thank you.

I guess I'm coming at it from the other side. I've loved Lois Lane for years. For me, killing off Lois and putting Chloe in her place would feel like... killing off the real Lois so that Almiles could put their original character in the place of the legend. For me, if Chloe became top reporter at the Planet and married Clark, that would feel like stealing from Lois, from her destiny.

From the first moment she appeared on screen Lois appeared on screen I fell in love with her character. She's brash, rude, driven and absolutely no reverence for Clark's 'mystique' which was a breath of fresh air considering everyone's attitude about Clark. And that's what I always loved about Lois, that she's a grounding force for him, that he can be a superhero but Lois reminds him that he's also Clark and he needs to cook dinner!

Yes, that's it exactly! That's just why I love her.

It's why I love Lois -- because even in Crusade, it felt like Lois is more passionate and focused (when she does get focused) on finding the truth. In trying to make the world better.

Yes. Which is why I get so baffled when people say that she doesn't act like Lois. Having her on-screen just showed me exactly why Chloe wasn't anything like Lois. Compare-contrast.

I rewatched Crusade last night and I just got a kick when Lois brought Amnesiac!Kal-el(Clark) to the hospital and she wanted to pass him off to the attending but the attending tells her that since she found Clark, she's responsible for him now. At first watch it meant nothing for me but last night it struck me as especially resonant that Lois was told that Clark is her responsibility.

Aw... yeah, that is sweet.

*rotfl* OMG! You just found out about Chloisers! *rotfl*
Yuh. Um, yes, there are lots of those fans.

They make no sense! I continue to read and they continue to make no sense. And they claim to be all about the "Iconic Lois Lane" while saying things that made me think that they've a) never picked up a Superman comic in their lives b) never watched a Superman movie (except possibly Superman Returns) and c) definitely didn't watch Lois and Clark.

It was especially baffling to have people knock on her bad spelling as that is a classic Lois Lane trait that pops up often.

*falls in love with you* Yes. So do I. Feminist rage. I can't go near a lot of the TWOP boards or into some parts of LJ because the sexist vitriol that is heaped on Lois and ED is so repulsive. You nailed it here--it's extremely hypocritical.

It really, really is. And I just don't see how they don't notice it.

I also feel protectiveness to strong female characters like Lois and Buffy (and, for me, Starbuck and Roslin in BSG). I just don't understand why women want to buy into milksoppy versions of women rather than the few strong (and complex) women that are finally being offered to us in the media.

It doesn't make any sense, really. Except, maybe, that change is hard. People still tend to believe that for one person to rise up, another has to fall (this is brought up all the time in Chloe vs Lois arguments), when that isn't the case at all. Everyone can (and should) be lifted up.

They make no sense! I continue to read and they continue to make no sense.
*giggle* Um, yeah. I have some Chlois fans on my f'list, and some are definitely more sane than others, but yes, I still find the Chlois thing inherently baffling.

they claim to be all about the "Iconic Lois Lane" while saying things that made me think that they've a) never picked up a Superman comic in their lives b) never watched a Superman movie (except possibly Superman Returns) and c) definitely didn't watch Lois and Clark.
Right!! You're going through all the same emotions I had on discovering them. It's completely baffling. And the spelling! Yeah! I end up concluding that they don't really like iconic Lois either, but are projecting what they would like on to that name.

when that isn't the case at all
Oh, I try time and time again to argue that point. But they just don't see it. One of my issues with Chloisers is that they see everything as a competition (between women--for men, for the prize job). And they assume that Chloe is going to WANT to be Lois in the future. It seems quite clear to me that Chloe is her own person with her own desires, and the timing is not right. Chloe likes Clark now, but when it finally comes to Lois and Clark hooking up, what's to say she won't have cheerily moved on? That's life. That's what happens. Is baffling.

Maybe it's depressing. But it's the truth of the world. I grew up in the country, I grew up with people whose accents were a huge handicap to any type of career I wanted, well any where I had to talk to people.

I had to change it very fast. The accent I grew up with told people that I was a redneck, and most people where I come from are. It's a stereotype based on a level of truth I can't deny.

Where I come from, there is no hope, and I have nothing but contempt for the old school mates who didn't try to escape.

Pride in ignorance. I don't understand that, but people have it, and there is weird bizarre pride in being a bogan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan) in my country, when it's just plain pathetic, like people can't do better. *sigh*

Yes!!! Very much so!!!

I'm a Clark fan, which, you know, can kind of get you in weird places, but I haven't been able to read one of Omar G's recaps since Lois showed up, because he just doesn't *get* her, and he's let the TWoP SV forums descend into this place where if you don't have the *exact same opinion* as every one else, you're kind of not welcome. Which isn't what TWoP is supposed to be about, and it totally isn't in other places, it's just Omar and it makes me mad.

I love the side of Clark that Lois brings out. He *makes* jokes! He giggles! They have a much more *even* relationship than he's ever had with Chloe. I'm enjoying them scoobying together, now that Chloe knows, but really, a love-match? There? Clearly no.

I admit it, the Chloisers have started driving me batty. I used to be able to see it, but then Lois showed up and she's so *Lois*!!

*giggle* Um, yeah. I have some Chlois fans on my f'list, and some are definitely more sane than others, but yes, I still find the Chlois thing inherently baffling.

I guess it's partly... the drive to be canon. Because Clark/Lana is canon, Clark and Lex's complicatedness is canon, Clark/Lois is future canon like woah. From what I've seen Chlark and Chlois fans seem to actually mostly just be Chloe fans (I say this based on the many insults flung at Clark that go mostly unchallenged). So, they want her to matter, to be important to canon. And, in the future, the two most important people in Clark's daily life will be Lois and Lex. And Chloe probably can't take over Lex's life.

Right!! You're going through all the same emotions I had on discovering them. It's completely baffling. And the spelling! Yeah! I end up concluding that they don't really like iconic Lois either, but are projecting what they would like on to that name.

Yeah, that's what I'm really getting. And there are also posts about how, if Lois is the real Lois Lane, she should have come in and immediately blown everyone away with how cool she was. Which... for one, that would make for a sucky continuing character and for the other, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have been yelling, "Mary-Sue!" if that happened.

One of my issues with Chloisers is that they see everything as a competition (between women--for men, for the prize job).

I've been picking up on that vibe. Like, if Chloe can't have what Lois ends up getting, Chloe is doomed to be miserable. If Chloe can't be the star reporter of the Daily Planet and Clark Kent coming home to her at night, she'll be unfulfilled and miserable. And that just seems very limiting.

Yay for Clark fans! I remember, way back during my first stink watching the show, I was so pleased and proud for Clark at the end of Dichotic, when he called Lana and Chloe on their behavior towards him (acting like he's just a jealous boyfriend when he's saving their lives). And then found out that tons of people were mad at him. I was baffled.

I haven't been able to read one of Omar G's recaps since Lois showed up, because he just doesn't *get* her, and he's let the TWoP SV forums descend into this place where if you don't have the *exact same opinion* as every one else, you're kind of not welcome. Which isn't what TWoP is supposed to be about, and it totally isn't in other places, it's just Omar and it makes me mad.

It's happened before. Season Six of Buffy was the same way at TWoP. If you didn't agree that the season sucked and Buffy was a bitch, then you were a moron. Really frustrating for people who were still fans of Buffy and the show.

I love the side of Clark that Lois brings out. He *makes* jokes! He giggles! They have a much more *even* relationship than he's ever had with Chloe.

Yes! It's such an equal relationship, which Clark has never really managed with anyone else, because of the Secrets and Lies hanging over his head. But Lois doesn't care, because she thinks Clark is a big ol' dork regardless.

I'm enjoying them scoobying together, now that Chloe knows, but really, a love-match? There? Clearly no.

There really never has been an equality of affection there. Clark adores Chloe, but as a friend. In all of their kisses that I can recall, Chloe has been the aggressor, with Clark the (rather surprised) recipient. Even in the classic old days of Lois and Clark, there's been that balance of affection, because while Lois was mooney over Superman, Clark was equally mooney over Lois. It was reciprocal, even if Lois didn't know that.

I admit it, the Chloisers have started driving me batty. I used to be able to see it, but then Lois showed up and she's so *Lois*!!

She really, really is.

for one, that would make for a sucky continuing character and for the other, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have been yelling, "Mary-Sue!" if that happened.
Totally! Sometimes I wonder if I'm watching the same show as other people. What would the show have been like if ALL the characters had to come on already 'being' their iconic selves. The point of Smallville is to show them before that.

And that just seems very limiting.
Yes, exactly. Whereas I actually think having a character like Chloe on the show is very freeing because her destiny is NOT a fixed point.

Yes, exactly. Whereas I actually think having a character like Chloe on the show is very freeing because her destiny is NOT a fixed point.

Indeed. They're able to do a whole lot with her, without being accountable to the people who own Clark Kent and Lois Lane (which is another reason that the Chlois theory rings false -- I can't imagine Almiles ever getting permission to do it, not from the people who sound as if they were guarding Lois's legacy so very carefully in her appearances on the show).

Oh yeah, totally. The Chlois-ers ignore all those restrictions that AlMiles are under. That's another little bugbear of mine. People love to hate on AlMiles--I understand that. But when they hate on them for things beyond their control--like the restrictions on Lois or not being able to have Bruce Wayne on the show, it irks me.

Yes, people were, as I recall, upset that 'Adam Knight' didn't turn out to be Batman. But DC wouldn't let them. That's not AlMiles' call. DC ultimately owns it all (and they, as I understand it, are very firm on Lois/Clark being together at the end of it all -- I heard that they let someone go because he was trying to shake up the marriage). From everything that I've heard, DC likes Erica's Lois. ED has done cons with the other Lois Lanes. There's an entire bloody documentary on the fourth season dvds about 'Being Lois Lane' that shows all the ways that ED's Lois is related to the other versions of Lois Lane.

Totally! Yes, DC do seem very positive about Erica's Lois. I've read a transcript of a con panel with ED and Margot Kidder, and Kidder was incredibly supportive of Erica--it was really touching and felt like a real passing of the torch down the generations.

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