I can't stop mulling over the show, and I guess that's what makes Joss Whedon such an effective writer. His work is worth debating and caring about.

Yes -- he hurts us and makes us laugh and cry, but above all, his worlds are doors to thought and belief and debate and caring.

I agree, but that still wasn't good enough for Wesley. He deserved better, even if it is fitting dramatic choice that he didn't get a better death.

I'm not sure he could have accepted better. Wesley was so very, very broken.

I think Lorne feel despair and disillusionment, but he's also the classic Witness to Important Events, vital as a narrator and keeper of history. He has also functioned as "fifth business."

As shown in Spin the Bottle. I definitely agree.