I've seen this guy and Orlin, her Nic Cage-eske stalker from the upper realms. How much worse does it get?
Second season. He doesn't develop the crush on Jack until S3, though.
Cool. I'm very much looking forward to seeing how this all plays out.
Well, that and he didn't want to die, but yes. Absolutely. He gets religion in Meridian, and when you first see him in Abyss he's filled up with it--he's so happy doing what he's doing, he can't imagine doing anything else, he's committed to the rules he has to follow. He might have helped Teal'c come up with the solution to the how-to-rescue-Jack problem, but it's unclear, and he strongly denies it when Jack asks.
Not wanting to die certainly seems to be one of Daniel's big themes. He's a 'life, hope' guy.
The reason that I fall on the 'helping' side is literary tradition. I've read about the episode and I checked out the transcript. Daniel leaves Jack, Teal'c gets an idea during meditation about where Jack is, Daniel shows back up to see Jack -- in literary tradition, that's a clear indication that Daniel did something to help Teal'c. Especially since we seem to get no on-screen reason for Daniel leaving. Makes sense that he'd deny it -- he has plausible deniability and he'd be foolish to admit that he interfered.
I really want to see the episode, though. Because, wow, tone and facial expressions mean so much. Is Daniel really so enamored of Oma's way in Abyss or is he trying to convince himself that this is the best way, that with all his power, it's still better not to help Jack? There's absolutely no way for me to form a true personal opinion based on transcripts.
I recently saw a clip of the elevator scene from Full Circle and it has such a completely different vibe from transcripts alone (this would be, in part, because wow, Michael and Richard had kick-ass chemistry and play off each other extremely well).
Then we get Changeling, where he seems less happy, more homesick (Daniel to human-Teal'c, a little wistfully: "Self-preservation is a powerful instinct.") and Full Circle, where he gives up completely on the rules, partly at Jack's urging.
Ooo. There, he may be admitting to himself that a huge part of the reason he moved on was to live. No, not just to live, because it's possible that Jacob could have healed him, but he probably wouldn't have ever been whole again, yes? He wanted to perserve his self, not his body.
And it makes sense that he'd completely throw the rules out for Abydos. Those are his people (who are now beyond his reach... ouch).
We never get a real answer as to whether he was kicked out or chose to leave. The characters all assume kicked out. MS has said in interviews that the backstory he discussed with the writers was that there would've been some sort of a trial thing and Daniel chose to come back. *shrug* So you can interpret it however you want, at this point.
Neat. I like that. Until it's said on-screen, it's open, and possibilities are fun.
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I've seen this guy and Orlin, her Nic Cage-eske stalker from the upper realms. How much worse does it get?
Second season. He doesn't develop the crush on Jack until S3, though.
Cool. I'm very much looking forward to seeing how this all plays out.
Well, that and he didn't want to die, but yes. Absolutely. He gets religion in Meridian, and when you first see him in Abyss he's filled up with it--he's so happy doing what he's doing, he can't imagine doing anything else, he's committed to the rules he has to follow. He might have helped Teal'c come up with the solution to the how-to-rescue-Jack problem, but it's unclear, and he strongly denies it when Jack asks.
Not wanting to die certainly seems to be one of Daniel's big themes. He's a 'life, hope' guy.
The reason that I fall on the 'helping' side is literary tradition. I've read about the episode and I checked out the transcript. Daniel leaves Jack, Teal'c gets an idea during meditation about where Jack is, Daniel shows back up to see Jack -- in literary tradition, that's a clear indication that Daniel did something to help Teal'c. Especially since we seem to get no on-screen reason for Daniel leaving. Makes sense that he'd deny it -- he has plausible deniability and he'd be foolish to admit that he interfered.
I really want to see the episode, though. Because, wow, tone and facial expressions mean so much. Is Daniel really so enamored of Oma's way in Abyss or is he trying to convince himself that this is the best way, that with all his power, it's still better not to help Jack? There's absolutely no way for me to form a true personal opinion based on transcripts.
I recently saw a clip of the elevator scene from Full Circle and it has such a completely different vibe from transcripts alone (this would be, in part, because wow, Michael and Richard had kick-ass chemistry and play off each other extremely well).
Then we get Changeling, where he seems less happy, more homesick (Daniel to human-Teal'c, a little wistfully: "Self-preservation is a powerful instinct.") and Full Circle, where he gives up completely on the rules, partly at Jack's urging.
Ooo. There, he may be admitting to himself that a huge part of the reason he moved on was to live. No, not just to live, because it's possible that Jacob could have healed him, but he probably wouldn't have ever been whole again, yes? He wanted to perserve his self, not his body.
And it makes sense that he'd completely throw the rules out for Abydos. Those are his people (who are now beyond his reach... ouch).
We never get a real answer as to whether he was kicked out or chose to leave. The characters all assume kicked out. MS has said in interviews that the backstory he discussed with the writers was that there would've been some sort of a trial thing and Daniel chose to come back. *shrug* So you can interpret it however you want, at this point.
Neat. I like that. Until it's said on-screen, it's open, and possibilities are fun.