butterfly: (Thoughtful -- Rose (by featurefilm))
butterfly ([personal profile] butterfly) wrote2006-06-26 04:30 pm
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Doctor Who: Fear Her

First off, it's way too hot in Oregon right now.

Second, I really enjoyed this episode (The Girl in the Fireplace retains its title as the only New Who episode that I haven't liked). The Doctor and Rose were so incredibly adorable. And we got to see Rose being wonderful and competent without the Doctor, but the Doctor still got to help, and he's still managing to cram a whole lot of happiness into the smallish amount of time that they have. Also, they were so flirty in this episode. That 'are you deducting' scene was just... wow. And he assumed that she was calling him a 'beautiful boy' and was put out that she was talking to the cat! Adorable.

And, of course, even without the whole 'we know that Billie won't be there in S3' thing, the Doctor knows that the natural human lifespan is a whole lot shorter than his is (see: School Reunion). He wants to enjoy having Rose in his life while he can, because she'll die or leave (or he'll regenerate and things will change again). They have a finite amount of time together, so I don't understand why they shouldn't enjoy every moment that they can.

Of course, I was feeling this way back in Tooth and Claw when I was baffled that people found Rose and the Doctor smug and annoying (there are moments when they can be either/both of these things, but I have found them, by far, to be balanced by their moments of helpfulness and kindness and compassion). Up until they were separated, they had no clue that people were being held prisoner or that anyone might have died. For them, there was no reason to think that it was anything but a lark, because they don't know that this is one of their 'eventful enough to be filmed' adventures (but it always frustrates me when the audience expects the characters to know what's happening when they aren't on-screen).

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2006-07-02 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. I suppose one could take it that way. On the other hand, if someone told me that I don't 'know what I have' with my family and that I should move back in with one of my parents or even have them more in my life than they are, I'd be half-tempted to smack them. Moving backward isn't a good answer to me.
I want Rose to move forward, whatever it is that she ends up doing.


Well, I'd hope she's not just moving back into that flat and whatever. But closer than she is now still includes the entire planet, so there's that.


She could choose to get abandoned somewhere to save people.

Oh, that's harsh!

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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2006-07-02 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Her choice, the life she chooses. How's that harsh? If I'd... huh, and the whole 'how should Rose end up' really does seem to have a lot to do with personal preference. Because if I were where Rose is, now, if I'd been given her choices and been brave enough to do the same as she, I'd be like her, not imagining why I'd ever want to leave (and she still feels that way, as of the narration of Army of Ghosts). I'd rather choose something huge and fail than be put into a cage.

I suppose that's why the idea of her going back to Earth, living there, feels so horrible to me. I see Rose as a bird that was caged for nineteen years, didn't know anything better than the cage, but now she's seen the sky, and flown in it, and I can't imagine any cruelty worse than forcing her back into the cage that the Doctor let her out of.

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2006-07-02 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I only insist so on the homeward option cos it seems to foregrounded in the series. The growing up thing will be huge, I think, and some emo gubbins about the strength to stay still for five minutes.
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[identity profile] butterfly.livejournal.com 2006-07-03 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
The growing up thing seems to be important, but you and I disagree on the meaning, I think. Though we won't know what Russell means by 'growing up' until next Saturday, I suppose.

It just would be odd, and rather like the complete opposite of last series, and I'm not sure that I can watch a series so likely to give me emotional whiplash.

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2006-07-03 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Though we won't know what Russell means by 'growing up' until next Saturday, I suppose.

*nod* I think it'll be weird whatever happens because fandom seems to be watching in very divergent terms on some things, so that there's almost a feeling that there's two separate seasons and we're only just now about to find out which one we were actually watching? As in, like you say, what does RTD think "growing up" means.

But I don't think he's just done a 180. *ponders*