Off-hand Moffat's the only one writing something set before Victoria's reign. And it is quite possible/likely that RTD put some of the other ep's refs in himself.
Before and after. Torchwood could have been on the ship somewhere. We know that it existed as far forward as the Fourth Great and Bountiful Human Empire (Stunted), so why not later?
It starts throwing it in there when they've known each other for mere hours, with no effort to explain anything.
Do you mean the 'so glad I met you' in Unquiet Dead? Because, while that scene makes me go all fluttery inside, I don't think of it as primarily romantic. I think of it as a really sweet friendship moment, maybe a defining moment, where Rose realizes the thing that Reinette feels the need to tell her in Girl, that knowing the Doctor is worth the danger you have to put up with. It's one of the moments that makes the romantic stuff work for me later on.
What explainations do exist (mostly fanonically) don't jive with the positive way in which the relationship is otherwise presented. They're in love because they are. There's no effort at rhyme or reason, which at the very least Moffat attempted in tGitF, however convincing one finds it.
I suppose... I don't believe that people fall in love because they know everything all about a person. I think (and this is based entirely on my own experiences) that love, strong real love, develops out of friendship. Out of people finding things that they have in common and enjoy together. Out of finding someone that you like spending time with, and wanting to face the trials of the world with that person. And that's why Rose and the Doctor work for me, is because they have compatible personalities and just like spending time with each other.
*shrug* Worked for me.
It seemed to work for quite a few old school Doctor Who fans, from what I read.
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Before and after. Torchwood could have been on the ship somewhere. We know that it existed as far forward as the Fourth Great and Bountiful Human Empire (Stunted), so why not later?
It starts throwing it in there when they've known each other for mere hours, with no effort to explain anything.
Do you mean the 'so glad I met you' in Unquiet Dead? Because, while that scene makes me go all fluttery inside, I don't think of it as primarily romantic. I think of it as a really sweet friendship moment, maybe a defining moment, where Rose realizes the thing that Reinette feels the need to tell her in Girl, that knowing the Doctor is worth the danger you have to put up with. It's one of the moments that makes the romantic stuff work for me later on.
What explainations do exist (mostly fanonically) don't jive with the positive way in which the relationship is otherwise presented. They're in love because they are. There's no effort at rhyme or reason, which at the very least Moffat attempted in tGitF, however convincing one finds it.
I suppose... I don't believe that people fall in love because they know everything all about a person. I think (and this is based entirely on my own experiences) that love, strong real love, develops out of friendship. Out of people finding things that they have in common and enjoy together. Out of finding someone that you like spending time with, and wanting to face the trials of the world with that person. And that's why Rose and the Doctor work for me, is because they have compatible personalities and just like spending time with each other.
*shrug* Worked for me.
It seemed to work for quite a few old school Doctor Who fans, from what I read.