“But you try to find lost things,” Rose said, and the wistfulness in her voice grabbed onto something deep in Donna's stomach and twisted.
Yes. I mean, I came into fandom knowing that Rose would be coming back, and I did figure that it'd be her finding the Doctor, not the other way around. That's just who they are. But I always loved reunionfic where the Doctor is the one who finds a way over, because I wanted him to stop being willing to settle for being miserable. Obviously, I did not understand RTD very well. *is not bitter at all, nooo*
But still, yes. I think one of the reasons Bad Wolf Bay hurt Rose so much is that she knew when the Doctor said "impossible", it meant he wouldn't even try anymore. Of course she would still be determined to get back to him, but it would hurt, that he would not longer be willing to make that effort. Even now when Rose knows how much she means to him, enough that he'd choose her over the whole universe, I think that would still hurt. And not just for her own sake, but for his, that he wasn't willing to fight for his own happiness.
Maybe the Doctor wasn't the only person here who needed someone here to listen.
YES. Rose and the Doctor definitely love each other and are better together than apart, but they still need to have friends, a support system, outside of each other. Jack and Martha, Sarah Jane if they ever start letting her in the loop, and now Donna--they're so good for them. And especially now that Rose no longer has Jackie, I think it'll do her good to have an older female friend to talk to.
“You haven't known the Doctor long enough to realize that he sometimes gets these things a bit wrong?” Rose asked, loudly enough that the Doctor must have heard her. He came around the console and snagged her by the waist, tugging her up against his body. He bent closer and whispered something in her ear. Donna rolled her eyes, turning away from them and going toward the door.
She could hear Rose laughing, briefly, before the sound was muffled. Donna took a quick peek around her shoulder and, yes, that was definitely kissing. Well, good for them.
First, I love them being so free with each other. It happies me very much. :D But also, heh, I bet the Doctor is happy to finally have this to respond with when Rose embarks on one of her ego-puncturing trips. :p Of course the ego-puncturing is good for him, but I imagine he's very pleased with himself. *g*
“Well, I don't know if you can actually see for miles from here. We're in a bit of a low point, not a true nadir, but still something of a geographical dip. That's going to have an affect on how far into the distance you can see - particularly humans such as yourself or Rose, who have weaker eyesight.”
"And what do your superior eyes tell you?" Donna snapped.
I'm glad Donna's not putting up with that. It reminds me of his comment on human senses in Two Coins, Silver, and its effect on Rose. It may be true, but it's not sensitive and it's not helpful. The Doctor determining that rudeness is part of his personality does not give him carte blanche to say things like that, and while I'm sure Rose would have called him on it eventually, I'm glad Donna's not putting up with it from the start. I think next time he pulls out his specs, she should make a comment on his superior eyesight. :p
And finally, yay Carrionites! The Shakespeare Code is one of my favorite episodes, and I'd really rather like to see another confrontation between Lilith and the Doctor.
*cough* So, here's the ginormous comment that I like to do when I have time--and when fics inspire me. I ramble in comments when I can, because I love fics that make me think so much with just a line or two, and want to talk about it.
I'm really looking forward to the next part of this--and the Doctor or Rose's POV? I love Donna, and I love reading things from her perspective, but I'd really like to see the Doctor's and Rose's takes on recent events soon too. :)
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“But you try to find lost things,” Rose said, and the wistfulness in her voice grabbed onto something deep in Donna's stomach and twisted.
Yes. I mean, I came into fandom knowing that Rose would be coming back, and I did figure that it'd be her finding the Doctor, not the other way around. That's just who they are. But I always loved reunionfic where the Doctor is the one who finds a way over, because I wanted him to stop being willing to settle for being miserable. Obviously, I did not understand RTD very well. *is not bitter at all, nooo*
But still, yes. I think one of the reasons Bad Wolf Bay hurt Rose so much is that she knew when the Doctor said "impossible", it meant he wouldn't even try anymore. Of course she would still be determined to get back to him, but it would hurt, that he would not longer be willing to make that effort. Even now when Rose knows how much she means to him, enough that he'd choose her over the whole universe, I think that would still hurt. And not just for her own sake, but for his, that he wasn't willing to fight for his own happiness.
Maybe the Doctor wasn't the only person here who needed someone here to listen.
YES. Rose and the Doctor definitely love each other and are better together than apart, but they still need to have friends, a support system, outside of each other. Jack and Martha, Sarah Jane if they ever start letting her in the loop, and now Donna--they're so good for them. And especially now that Rose no longer has Jackie, I think it'll do her good to have an older female friend to talk to.
“You haven't known the Doctor long enough to realize that he sometimes gets these things a bit wrong?” Rose asked, loudly enough that the Doctor must have heard her. He came around the console and snagged her by the waist, tugging her up against his body. He bent closer and whispered something in her ear. Donna rolled her eyes, turning away from them and going toward the door.
She could hear Rose laughing, briefly, before the sound was muffled. Donna took a quick peek around her shoulder and, yes, that was definitely kissing. Well, good for them.
First, I love them being so free with each other. It happies me very much. :D But also, heh, I bet the Doctor is happy to finally have this to respond with when Rose embarks on one of her ego-puncturing trips. :p Of course the ego-puncturing is good for him, but I imagine he's very pleased with himself. *g*
“Well, I don't know if you can actually see for miles from here. We're in a bit of a low point, not a true nadir, but still something of a geographical dip. That's going to have an affect on how far into the distance you can see - particularly humans such as yourself or Rose, who have weaker eyesight.”
"And what do your superior eyes tell you?" Donna snapped.
I'm glad Donna's not putting up with that. It reminds me of his comment on human senses in Two Coins, Silver, and its effect on Rose. It may be true, but it's not sensitive and it's not helpful. The Doctor determining that rudeness is part of his personality does not give him carte blanche to say things like that, and while I'm sure Rose would have called him on it eventually, I'm glad Donna's not putting up with it from the start. I think next time he pulls out his specs, she should make a comment on his superior eyesight. :p
And finally, yay Carrionites! The Shakespeare Code is one of my favorite episodes, and I'd really rather like to see another confrontation between Lilith and the Doctor.
*cough* So, here's the ginormous comment that I like to do when I have time--and when fics inspire me. I ramble in comments when I can, because I love fics that make me think so much with just a line or two, and want to talk about it.
I'm really looking forward to the next part of this--and the Doctor or Rose's POV? I love Donna, and I love reading things from her perspective, but I'd really like to see the Doctor's and Rose's takes on recent events soon too. :)