You know I'm doing full on reviews while rewatching the Rose episodes myself and it's really fascinating reading your takes on them after I've done them because we seem to see a lot of the same things, but you also point out some things that I missed -- one below that I'm rather annoyed with myself for not having catched!. So, great read as always. I love that you're doing these too.
Gwyneth says that Rose has 'flown farther than anyone'. At this point, we know for a fact that that isn't true. However, by the time we reach the end of series four, it might very well be the case.
Well, she does have enhanced psychic ability. Hmm, I wonder how far in advance RTD knew that Billie was leaving after the second series and that he'd bring her back, or if there was simply always a plan to send her far, far away from the Doctor when she did leave. It would explain the wonderful foreshadowing of this line.
She's awed and delighted -- taking a moment to press just one foot into the snow and then pull it back so that she can look at the footprint.
I'm quite surprised that I didn't even note that in my review (I'm totally cheating and adding it now), because that moment when she puts her foot in the snow and looks at the imprint is one of my absolute favorite Rose moments in the entire show. I mean, it's snow. She's aware of it, obviously, and yet, you so get her awe and realization that although it's the same, it's different. It may be snow, but it's 1860 (er, actually 1869, but same difference) snow. It's like the flip side of her realization to the plumbing problem in TEoftW that I wrote about in that review.
"She was billions of years from anything she knew with a man that she'd known for about twenty-four hours. Practically a stranger. She had completely placed her life in his hands with barely a second thought. I loved how that realization hit her and how, while it carried through to the next scene with the Doctor, she was grounded somewhat by the appearance of a plumber. I loved that; it was such a small, but brilliant way of showing that Rose is good with this kind of life because she can grasp so quickly, so easily, so rightly that while everything changes, so much stays the same. The fundamentals stay the same. Five billion years in the future? We still have sanitary waste issues. Thus, plumbers. Same shit, different millennium. Literally."
Again, here's the other side of the coin. It's the same thing that she'd find in her time period, but ... it's different, because it's more than two hundred years old. I just love how Rose can be grounded and also lifted by the different sides of the same scenario.
In S2, though, the Doctor may very well be the First Acolyte of the Church of Rose
Indeed. One of the best Doctor/Rose quotes EVER: "I've seen a lot of this universe. I've seen fake gods and bad gods and demi-gods and would-be gods. I've had the whole pantheon. But if I believe in one thing... just one thing... I believe in her!
This girl... she gets it. She understands why he travels. She's seen the danger and the horror, but the danger thrills her and the beauty outweighs the horror by far. It's fun and beautiful and amazing. And she gets that. She gets it and then she makes it better... She's in it for the same reasons that he is and she understands.
YES! I adored this episode partly because of the dialogue, and the quote here is one of my favorites. Again, quoting my review, but I like I said, it's so nice to see someone who sees a lot of what I see when I watch the episodes.
"... this little gem was one of those moments where we see the positive force of Rose at work on the Doctor. There's such a negativity (that's touched upon often) about the Doctor never standing still, mainly that he doesn't stick around so that he doesn't have to deal with the consequences. However Rose, in her youth and enthusiasm of this strange new universe she's discovering, sees a positive reason for his swanning off: There's just so much out there to see, why would you stick around when there's still so much out there?"
part I
Gwyneth says that Rose has 'flown farther than anyone'. At this point, we know for a fact that that isn't true. However, by the time we reach the end of series four, it might very well be the case.
Well, she does have enhanced psychic ability. Hmm, I wonder how far in advance RTD knew that Billie was leaving after the second series and that he'd bring her back, or if there was simply always a plan to send her far, far away from the Doctor when she did leave. It would explain the wonderful foreshadowing of this line.
She's awed and delighted -- taking a moment to press just one foot into the snow and then pull it back so that she can look at the footprint.
I'm quite surprised that I didn't even note that in my review (I'm totally cheating and adding it now), because that moment when she puts her foot in the snow and looks at the imprint is one of my absolute favorite Rose moments in the entire show. I mean, it's snow. She's aware of it, obviously, and yet, you so get her awe and realization that although it's the same, it's different. It may be snow, but it's 1860 (er, actually 1869, but same difference) snow. It's like the flip side of her realization to the plumbing problem in TEoftW that I wrote about in that review.
"She was billions of years from anything she knew with a man that she'd known for about twenty-four hours. Practically a stranger. She had completely placed her life in his hands with barely a second thought. I loved how that realization hit her and how, while it carried through to the next scene with the Doctor, she was grounded somewhat by the appearance of a plumber. I loved that; it was such a small, but brilliant way of showing that Rose is good with this kind of life because she can grasp so quickly, so easily, so rightly that while everything changes, so much stays the same. The fundamentals stay the same. Five billion years in the future? We still have sanitary waste issues. Thus, plumbers. Same shit, different millennium. Literally."
Again, here's the other side of the coin. It's the same thing that she'd find in her time period, but ... it's different, because it's more than two hundred years old. I just love how Rose can be grounded and also lifted by the different sides of the same scenario.
In S2, though, the Doctor may very well be the First Acolyte of the Church of Rose
Indeed. One of the best Doctor/Rose quotes EVER: "I've seen a lot of this universe. I've seen fake gods and bad gods and demi-gods and would-be gods. I've had the whole pantheon. But if I believe in one thing... just one thing... I believe in her!
This girl... she gets it. She understands why he travels. She's seen the danger and the horror, but the danger thrills her and the beauty outweighs the horror by far. It's fun and beautiful and amazing. And she gets that. She gets it and then she makes it better... She's in it for the same reasons that he is and she understands.
YES! I adored this episode partly because of the dialogue, and the quote here is one of my favorites. Again, quoting my review, but I like I said, it's so nice to see someone who sees a lot of what I see when I watch the episodes.
"... this little gem was one of those moments where we see the positive force of Rose at work on the Doctor. There's such a negativity (that's touched upon often) about the Doctor never standing still, mainly that he doesn't stick around so that he doesn't have to deal with the consequences. However Rose, in her youth and enthusiasm of this strange new universe she's discovering, sees a positive reason for his swanning off: There's just so much out there to see, why would you stick around when there's still so much out there?"
Or as you put it: She gets it.