The point isn't whether Freud was right about the Electra complex in real life. The point is that Rose has one. She's written that way. There are huge, explicit issues surrounding abandonment by her father and the insecurity that resulted, along with a sexualization of the surrogate father figure. I think Freud was full of shit, too, but his theories have made for some interesting drama over the years.
There are issues about her father dying, yes. Does that mean that she's automatically looking for a father figure? Not necessarily. In Father's Day, she's very clear about the father figure that she's looking for, and it's Pete Tyler. Rose isn't confused about that in the slightest.
I would have though someone who would post something entitled, "Doctor Who: Did We Need Martha?" might have been prepared for spirited debate -- which is all I've done.
Spirited debate is one thing. Accusing people of only buying into the surface of a show is something else. Insulting people isn't the same as debating them. You opened your 'debate' with me by building a straw man argument ('So.....now what? We watch Doctor Who for a decade thinking how unique Rose was? Oh, here's a new companion...he loved Rose more. Wait this one's interesting....nope, loved Rose more. This one doesn't want to shag him...good thing, cuz he loved Rose more.'), embellishing and twisting what you believe shippers to think in order to make your point, which is really poor debating technique.
Then, of course, you then went on to lecture me about what Rose's story 'was really about' (did you notice how I started my own post with how I thought RTD 'seemed to feel' and ended with how he 'appeared to believe', thus not claiming my interpretation as the only possible one?).
I'm not entirely certain how I'm not supposed to find that insulting. You've pretty much talked down to me this entire discussion and I don't find patronizing attitudes conducive to healthy debates.
Re: and two...
There are issues about her father dying, yes. Does that mean that she's automatically looking for a father figure? Not necessarily. In Father's Day, she's very clear about the father figure that she's looking for, and it's Pete Tyler. Rose isn't confused about that in the slightest.
I would have though someone who would post something entitled, "Doctor Who: Did We Need Martha?" might have been prepared for spirited debate -- which is all I've done.
Spirited debate is one thing. Accusing people of only buying into the surface of a show is something else. Insulting people isn't the same as debating them. You opened your 'debate' with me by building a straw man argument ('So.....now what? We watch Doctor Who for a decade thinking how unique Rose was? Oh, here's a new companion...he loved Rose more. Wait this one's interesting....nope, loved Rose more. This one doesn't want to shag him...good thing, cuz he loved Rose more.'), embellishing and twisting what you believe shippers to think in order to make your point, which is really poor debating technique.
Then, of course, you then went on to lecture me about what Rose's story 'was really about' (did you notice how I started my own post with how I thought RTD 'seemed to feel' and ended with how he 'appeared to believe', thus not claiming my interpretation as the only possible one?).
I'm not entirely certain how I'm not supposed to find that insulting. You've pretty much talked down to me this entire discussion and I don't find patronizing attitudes conducive to healthy debates.